In Part Two of this powerful ANEW Insight conversation, Dr. Supatra Tovar and Dr. Meg Haworth move beyond insight and into embodied healing—exploring how trauma is stored in the body and how people can begin to release it safely, gently, and sustainably.
“The body remembers what the mind forgets”
Dr. Haworth explains that trauma—especially long-term narcissistic abuse—isn’t just a memory. It’s an emotional and physiological imprint. Shame, guilt, fear, rage, and grief don’t simply pass through us; they can lodge in muscles, organs, and the nervous system. That’s why people often say things like:
- “I feel stuck in my chest”
- “My stomach is always tense”
- “My body reacts before my mind does”
These sensations aren’t random. They’re signals.
Why dissociation happens—and why it makes sense
As children, many survivors learned to disconnect from their bodies to survive overwhelming emotional environments. Spacing out, feeling numb, or living “in your head” can be protective at first—but over time, it blocks access to intuition, self-trust, and emotional regulation.
Healing doesn’t force the body to relive trauma. It invites the body back into safety.
What is the Whole Person Integration Technique?
Dr. Haworth’s approach helps clients:
- Gently identify where emotions are held in the body
- Observe feelings instead of being consumed by them
- Understand the story and core belief attached to those emotions
- Release what’s become toxic
- Replace it with regulating qualities like calm, compassion, and self-love
The key is that healing comes from the loving self, not from pushing or fixing.
Breath, intuition, and rebuilding self-trust
Both Dr. Haworth and Dr. Tovar emphasize simple but powerful practices:
- Slow, intentional breathing to calm the nervous system
- Closing the eyes to reconnect inward
- Asking the body what it needs—and listening without judgment
Over time, this rebuilds intuition, the inner voice many survivors were taught to ignore.
Food, inflammation, and emotional resilience
Trauma healing isn’t just emotional—it’s biological. Dr. Haworth integrates nutrition by helping clients notice how food affects mood, energy, anxiety, and inflammation. There’s no one-size-fits-all plan. Instead, the body becomes a laboratory:
- Notice how you feel before, during, and after eating
- Reduce exposure to foods that worsen anxiety or fatigue
- Support the body with nourishment, not restriction
When the body feels safer, emotional healing accelerates.
A gentle takeaway
Healing from narcissistic abuse isn’t about becoming someone new.
It’s about remembering who you were before the conditioning—and letting your body lead the way back.
🎧 Listen to Part Two of the ANEW Insight Podcast with Dr. Meg Haworth to explore somatic healing, intuition, nutrition, and spiritual resilience in depth.
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Want to know more, you can visit Dr. Meg Haworth at https://meghaworth.com /, https://www.instagram.com/drmeghaworth /, https://www.facebook.com/chefdrmeghaworth , https://x.com/drmeghaworth/, https://www.youtube.com/user/FreeFoodWithDrMeg, https://www.youtube.com/user/FreeFoodWithDrMeg
Quick FAQs
1) How do I know if trauma is stored in my body and not just in my thoughts?
If you feel chronic tightness, pain, fatigue, gut issues, or emotional reactions that seem to come “out of nowhere,” your body may be holding unresolved trauma—even if you intellectually understand your past.
2) Can I heal trauma without reliving or re-telling everything that happened?
Yes. Somatic and mind-body approaches focus on safety, awareness, and regulation—not re-traumatization. Healing can happen by working with sensations, breath, and emotions in the present moment.
3) How do I start rebuilding self-trust after narcissistic abuse?
Self-trust begins by reconnecting with your body and intuition—slowing down, noticing sensations, and honoring small internal cues instead of overriding them or seeking external approval.
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Dr. Supatra Tovar: [00:00:00] Welcome back to the ANEW Insight podcast. We are back for the second half of our interview with amazing transpersonal psychologist, mind-body medicine practitioner and trauma expert Dr. Meg Hayworth. Meg gave us some astute insight into her path towards treating narcissistic abuse recovery, and I cannot wait to learn more.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: Dr. Meg, welcome back.
Dr. Meg Haworth: Thank you so much. Excited to keep going.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: Yes, me too. Now you have a saying, the body remembers what the mind forgets. Let’s delve into that and unpack it. Explain how trauma is stored in the body, and how you help clients access these imprints.
Dr. Meg Haworth: Yes. Oh boy. So when you go through traumatic experiences, whether it be [00:01:00] single traumatic experience or many, ’cause that’s what we’re looking at with narcissistic abuse, parental, there is an emotional response. Now in narcissistic abuse. They’re literally using emotions to wear away at you. So they use shame, guilt, anger. Rage, envy, jealousy. Those are the main six that they use. Fear tactics, all of those things as part of their manipulation. So, so they’re throwing these emotions towards you, but then you have your response to the emotion. You have anger, fear, sadness, extreme hurt, betrayal. All these emotions.
Dr. Meg Haworth: So you think about what’s happening in your body, and the science tells us that every single emotion that you register, every single cell in your body is registering that emotion too. So if you have years and years [00:02:00] of anger and rage being thrown at you, shame and guilt being thrown at you, and then your own response to it,
Dr. Meg Haworth: you are literally, I like boiling in these emotions.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: Yes.
Dr. Meg Haworth: And so you’re living in this negative response and you may not even realize it because you might be the nicest person on earth, and you might be trying so hard with affirmations and all these different things to try to feel better, but your external world and your internal world do not match, and
Dr. Meg Haworth: Be really acutely aware of that.
Dr. Meg Haworth: But trying always to sort of walk on this tightrope. So. So these emotions are wearing away at your energy field, the way that we see it in energy medicine is that those emotions come into the field and then come into the body, and we store them all very differently. I know when I was first introduced to this in somatic therapies and psychosomatic therapy, which is really the core of my work I [00:03:00] was like. What how, what do you mean? The tissue is holding the muscle tissue is holding the memory. And yes. Conclusively yes. That it does hold the memory and we’re holding it in our system. And then our system, which I think of the energy system as the nervous system, it’s direct connect to the brain and the energy field and the nervous system, the central nervous system. And so those fight, flight, freeze responses that we get into when we have complex trauma, that is part of how you’re stuck. And you feel it. And those, my clients will tell me all the time, I feel stuck and I can feel that stuckness in me. I feel it’s in my stomach and you know what I am, I’m getting stomach aches all the time now.
Dr. Meg Haworth: So, so that tells you so much about where you’re lodging trauma.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: Mm-hmm.
Dr. Meg Haworth: It could be in your elbow, it could be in your left temple, it could be in your knee in, but it, you [00:04:00] could have aches and pains all over your body that are, that have an emotional root cause they’re, that are being expressed by your body talking to you.
Dr. Meg Haworth: But a lot of times we don’t listen.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: I know
Dr. Meg Haworth: we’re so disconnected from our bodies because we dissociate
Dr. Meg Haworth: It worked to help us get through the experience. And so you’re just used to jumping out and I was jumped out all the time.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: I think most people that you know, and if you look at it from a child’s eyes, there’s just only so much that they can take before it just almost fractures the brain , and really the nervous system as well. And so that’s commonly why dissociation and dissociation is a spectrum. You don’t have to go into like
Dr. Supatra Tovar: different personalities or anything like that, although that can happen and does happen from extreme trauma.
Dr. Meg Haworth: yeah.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: dissociating just like spacing out, not remembering not really being in the body, just like floating around in your head and not being connected and [00:05:00] aware of the body and that it is just a protective mechanism to try to keep your, your body yourself safe.
Dr. Meg Haworth: Yeah.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: How do you help release that? And is that through the Whole Person Integration Technique? Explain what that is in a little bit more detail
Dr. Meg Haworth: sure.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: and how you help people release this trauma from their bodies.
Dr. Meg Haworth: Absolutely. So Whole Person Integration Technique
Dr. Supatra Tovar: I.
Dr. Meg Haworth: is a holistic technique that helps you to identify where in the body you’re holding that emotion. So just for instance, if you had come to me and you were dealing with a lot of anger. From you get in arguments with your spouse all the time.
Dr. Meg Haworth: Maybe you’re in a narcissistically abusive relationship and you’re feeling anger and hatred, and you’re just like, Ugh, this is really overwhelming me. So when we do the technique together, your eyes are closed, you’re in an altered state of consciousness, but 100% [00:06:00] aware, And the reason your eyes are closed is so that you can have reference to the archetypes and the symbols that your psyche is going to send you to help you understand these holistic connections.
Dr. Meg Haworth: The great things about it is that, first of all, it puts you in observer mode so you’re not in the center of your story. I watch people when they’re talking about their stories, I’ll see them tense up. ‘Cause they’re just like in the middle of it. But this allows you to look at the experience and the narrative of the emotion itself. So we’re talking directly to that anger you’re holding. How are you holding it? Have you scan your body so you have that mind body awareness going on and you’re like, I feel it in my chest. It’s just, it’s so tight. In fact, it’s burning. And you know what? Every year I get bronchitis every single year. So then you start to make those connections [00:07:00] holistically.
Dr. Meg Haworth: We have this whole conversation with the anger itself. What does it look like? So there’s your psyche sending you that, that image. And that’s what I help them to intuitively understand because they’ll see some image that is like the Tasmanian devil is in there, first of all takes the edge off of it,
Dr. Meg Haworth: There’s something endearing about that Tasmanian devil, right? And then, but I help them interpret what it’s doing there in their body, what it’s doing in their field, how it’s hurting their bodies, and what are the thoughts, feelings, and the negative core belief that’s being held by that angry part of the self? And so often it’s that the person’s bowled over by the belief, like it, it can be very specific, not just I’m unlovable, which is horrible thing to feel, but you know, I am unlovable because blah, blah, blah.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: Yes. I had one [00:08:00] client who said, I, we were working on that kind of core belief and she said and one of the ways to work through that I do an method I employee is using mantra work to get into the body, to relax the body through this repetitive mantra work that also helps to recondition thoughts.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: One of her thoughts was, I deserve love. And every time she’d say it, she’d be like, no, I don’t.
Dr. Meg Haworth: Yeah.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: No, I don’t. And that’s essentially the messaging that she got from her mother her entire life. So it was very hard for her to reintegrate that thought, but please continue.
Dr. Meg Haworth: This is a lot too about affirmations, when you’re saying them and you don’t even know how they’re, what they’re triggering inside of you,
Dr. Supatra Tovar: So how do you get them
Dr. Meg Haworth: Yeah.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: into releasing the trauma in their bodies? What are the techniques that you use that helps to release that?
Dr. Meg Haworth: Yeah, so with whole person integration technique, once we kind of understand the [00:09:00] entire narrative of, and we get all these insights, and a lot of times memories will float in, oh, that’s connected to that I see so they start to see the whole. All these different connections. Mental, emotional, physical, energetic, and spiritual. And so they get to a place where I, when I feel intuitively they’re ready I’ll say, do you wanna keep this in your heart? And they’ll be like, oh my gosh, no. And this actually gives me a lot of information because if they’re telling me no way, and sometimes, well, it’s, I don’t know. I don’t know who I’ll be on the other side of this. Then I’ll remind them this is a layer. This is not you releasing all of this for all time. We can only do so much. You’re only built to handle so much each day, but you’re never gonna be given more than you can handle.
Dr. Meg Haworth: At any rate, we get them to that place and then we do the technique brings them into the part of themselves that’s loving the loving self and the loving [00:10:00] self is the part that really does the healing. So they’re literally doing a self-loving act while they’re releasing or forgiving, releasing and letting go of this toxic anger. Anger’s a normal emotion, of course, but I’m talking about when it becomes toxic to the system where it’s blocking you, it’s keeping you from moving forward in your business and your life and your relationship. So. So it, they get to that place where we help them release it, love it, release it, let it go. But not just that, replace it and we replace it with spiritual qualities, with a soul quality, like peace, love, kindness, caring, because we know emotions can make us sick. And we say this all the time in our language, right?
Dr. Meg Haworth: Like, that person makes me sick to my stomach, or I’m so worried sick about this thing . But emotions can also make us well. And so when we start [00:11:00] to embody and shift into emotions like peace and love and joy and flood our body with that, we flood our body with that love from that most loving part of ourselves. it’s so empowering to watch, by the end of the session when the person feels like, oh, you know what? My chest feels calm, I feel lighter, I feel freer, and then that continues happening as they go through the process. And not just that, they also will have shifts in their reality as they move forward. How they perceive themselves starts to shift. I’ve had clients call me up and say, oh my gosh, I was in the car on the way home from this business trip and I was like, I love me. So I just started saying, I love me. Because that is a, it’s a real thing, and it’s not easy to feel love for the self when you’ve been abused your whole life,
Dr. Supatra Tovar: Oh my gosh. Dr. Meg I swear to God, I think we’re [00:12:00] sisters because it seems like we really do operate very similarly in our therapy room. And I am curious too, I really wanna get into any of the somatic work, maybe breath work,
Dr. Supatra Tovar: Know, meditations, anything that you might do that’s on, just a body level alone that also helps to release this trauma because absolutely, I am 100% on board with you.
Dr. Meg Haworth: Yeah.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: We have to identify these thoughts. We need to objectively look at our history and see ourselves from a higher perspective to understand how the little kid might have developed these, really negative, horrible core beliefs. And what does this person now deserve to think and how how can we let
Dr. Supatra Tovar: these emotions go and replace them with loving, soulful, spiritually minded thoughts. You and I are like, woo. Yes. So I’m [00:13:00] wondering if we’re even more alike on what we do somatically. Do you do breath work with your clients? Do you do any particular techniques and explain them for our listeners so they might be able to learn how to do them themselves as well.
Dr. Meg Haworth: Yeah, absolutely. And I do give them things that they can do on their own. But the technique itself, Whole Person Integration Technique starts with breathing together. So we’re doing cleansing breaths to help reset the nervous system so that you can really have reference to the internal scape. because it’s so hard you first start trying to have reference to your body and your mind and your emotions and all of it all at once. It’s just like, oh my. ’cause we’re not used to it again. We’ve dissociated so much. So yes, so the breathing meditation is a huge thing that I huge proponent of. But I also will always say, please take a course this. It, trying to do it on your own. When you’ve got all this mental chatter, [00:14:00] you’ve got this hyper critical voice inside of yourself that’s not even really yours. It’s your parents,
Dr. Meg Haworth: So yeah, meditation’s really important, but taking it in a course you’re in that, that field of consciousness for meditation, and you go down into the meditation state so much faster and more easily, and then you have somebody helping you through it, and then you have that regular practice because then that opens up your intuition and your intuition is what you’ve been really separated from because
Dr. Supatra Tovar: oh my gosh,
Dr. Meg Haworth: imagine
Dr. Supatra Tovar: yes.
Dr. Meg Haworth: just imagine how powerful you would’ve been if you had been fully with your intuitive self when you were a child.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: Oh my gosh. We are total sisters. This was the core I just recently gave a, a TED talk and it’s gonna come out hopefully soon. Yay, yay, yay. But the whole message behind my TED talk was we’ve been disconnected from ourselves, especially when
Dr. Meg Haworth: Yeah.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: in terms of like our bodies and how we’re viewing them.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: Mainly this is through diet culture, but this is. It’s [00:15:00] for anyone who has been disconnected from their body and the way back toward you know, really being in tune and connected is to learn how to listen to that intuitive voice. And there are very easy things that you can do to get back in touch with it.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: And I always recommend that people get into their body. They, take their brain offline for a little bit and just get into it by breathing
Dr. Meg Haworth: Yeah.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: and being still in their body, and then just listening.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: When you just, when you just take a moment to listen, not to the above mind brain talking, but the body and you tune in, you ask your body
Dr. Meg Haworth: Yeah.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: what you’re feeling, you often just hear an answer.
Dr. Meg Haworth: Yeah.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: I think that’s the gateway toward really tuning into your intuition. So let’s actually go into that a little bit more. People are losing their sense of identity,
Dr. Supatra Tovar: Through, uh, narcissistic abuse. How do you rebuild self trust and recognize [00:16:00] one’s authentic self? It’s most likely, I’m gonna say probably through listening to their intuition, correct?
Dr. Meg Haworth: Absolutely. Getting them connected with their intuitive self.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: Yes.
Dr. Meg Haworth: The process itself, Whole Person Integration technique helps them to get more grounded in their intuitive self because it also gets them connected more with the psyche, with the soul that’s sending them
Dr. Meg Haworth: and then also with the spiritual qualities.
Dr. Meg Haworth: And that’s one of the first things that I do with my clients in my courses, everything. As I tell people to remember who you are, remember your soul qualities. Remember your spiritual qualities. Claim them back to yourself, back to your heart, because that is, that’s who you are. It’s just you’ve been told, you’ve been conned.
Dr. Meg Haworth: I always say adult children of narcissists or ACONS and they’ve been conned
Dr. Supatra Tovar: Yes.
Dr. Meg Haworth: You’ve been told so many things about yourselfthat simply aren’t true. And then you con yourself because you’re now wrapped up in this con game[00:17:00]
Dr. Meg Haworth: was instilled in you, programmed into you. So it’s releasing yourself from the programming, releasing yourself from the the energy that it’s holding, that negative core energy, and then allowing yourself to embody. Let’s talk about the body, right?
Dr. Meg Haworth: To bring these energies back into the body. They’ve always been available to us, but everything about life, I mean, just even the culture, it is, it’s designed to separate us from those qualities or make us focus on what’s wrong, like just turn on the news, right?
Dr. Supatra Tovar: Oh my gosh, yes. You and I are like, seriously cut of the same cloth. And I love that you bring spirituality into this because I, I do as well. I think it is so important that we, and I, that intuitive voice really is your highest spiritual voice coming through. Whether you believe, in. Whatever else is out there or not.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: We all have this voice and you’ve had it [00:18:00] since you were a kid and it often just gets suppressed or just ignored. And when we return to it, it’s, it’s insane how intuitive and correct it is.
Dr. Meg Haworth: yeah.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: There’s gotta be something too that you guys. So let’s talk a little bit more in spirituality.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: What do you, what’s the term you have a term called miracle thinking and how does that play into recovery from narcissistic abuse?
Dr. Meg Haworth: Yeah, so really I employ visualization quite a bit with my clients, reminding them like. What is the life you desire to create? Do you desire to create health in your body? If you’re sick, visualize. See yourself healed. yourself as the way you’d like yourself to be. Jumping around dancing, having a good time, feeling pain-free. All of those things, and spending some time every single day visualizing that, writing it down, creating the experience, [00:19:00] but feeling it. So it’s not just about miracle thinking, it’s miracle feeling, it’s feeling that energy and it’s really those principles of manifestation and creation.
Dr. Meg Haworth: If you think about you’ve created an experience where you’re now sick and co-created it. Because that parent really was the one who drilled this way of thinking into you, and now you’re doing it to yourself and you can turn it around. That’s exciting. Right ? You can change this and so, and it may take some time and it may take a lot of work, but that’s okay because the when you get to that part where you feel like, yeah. I am healthy, I am dancing. I don’t have fibromyalgia anymore, or chronic fatigue syndrome or mixed connective tissue disease or migraine headaches. Once at a great while, I’ll get one, but it’s always like, immediately I’m like, oh, yeah.
Dr. Meg Haworth: So these things are possible. as you enter into the, that field of consciousness where you’re just [00:20:00] imagining and becoming what you imagine yourself to be.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: Oh my gosh.
Dr. Meg Haworth: I would not be where I am today if I had, I didn’t do any of that.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: Me too. Oh my goodness. We need to just have lunch every day together.
Dr. Meg Haworth: I know.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: But you are absolutely right. I term it, best case, worst case scenario. ’cause we always tend to go to the worst case. That’s our conditioning, that’s our society. Why spend our time on that when we can spend it on the best case scenario and work systematically toward getting that.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: And if anyone is thinking, oh, these two ladies! I highly recommend uh, everyone go read You Are the Placebo by Dr. Joe Dispenza. Or Break the Habit of Being Yourself also by Dr. Joe Dispenza because he goes into the science behind why this actually works and gives you case studies and examples and helps you to
Dr. Supatra Tovar: reframe your thinking [00:21:00] and then practice that thinking through meditations, through visualizations. And it,
Dr. Supatra Tovar: there, there is a whole reason why we call it the placebo effect is because it, the only reason why somebody might be getting better, say it’s in a clinical trial and they’re on the placebo, is because they think that they’re getting the drug and thinking themselves well.
Dr. Meg Haworth: Yeah.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: So this is exactly along the same line now! I love that you integrate this into therapy. I think that’s actually a pretty rare thing.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: Now they’re even more rare, and something that we also are in alignment is you integrate nutrition into trauma healing. I do too. Tell me about the connection between food inflammation and emotional resilience and how you help your clients navigate their physical health by improving their nutrition.
Dr. Meg Haworth: Absolutely. The first thing I do when I work with somebody one-on-one is I.
Dr. Meg Haworth: I take an inventory of what do you eat every day? [00:22:00] What’s like the basic things that you eat? Because I wanna look at the connection between what’s happening with you emotionally and physically, and what you’re putting into your body.
Dr. Meg Haworth: Because your food is just like, your thoughts determine your reality. determine the reality of your body. And so it’s very important to put in things that are nourishing to you. A lot of people will, talk about like, everyone should be doing this or everyone should be, you should all be vegan, you should all, and I’m just like no, everybody’s different.
Dr. Meg Haworth: And everybody has a different makeup and calling, but there are a lot of things that we do know about food and mood that a lot of people don’t know or understand. And that has to do, I think in the US largely to do with the farming practices. The poisons that are used in our food and how foods become now anxiogenic.
Dr. Meg Haworth: So
Dr. Meg Haworth: Create anxiety, they create depression. They create rage. If I [00:23:00] get gluten, it has to be a fair amount. Like if I were to eat a brownie, for instance I will have crying jags for two days. I will have extreme fatigue. My hair will start falling out. I’ll even have like rage. which is so not me.
Dr. Meg Haworth: It’s just not how I am in the world, but that could be happening to you. So that food mood connection is very important to evaluate and to maybe do some experiments.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: Yes. Well, I think, uh, especially with gluten, we have, do we have people who have gluten sensitivity, we have people with intolerance. We have, you know,
Dr. Meg Haworth: yeah.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: people with celiac disease. And that is certainly one thing. And I think we have to caution people against, just like, you know just even if they don’t they just don’t know that they’re experiencing that, just cutting gluten.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: ’cause that may not be necessary. It’s really important to gauge how you feel after you eat anything, but you are absolutely 100% correct that [00:24:00] we live in pretty toxic food environment when you look at commercial food and agricultural practices. That can be from anything from our, you know, fruits and vegetables to the animal proteins that are out there.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: And so I think looking at that environment is really important in terms of reducing the amount of toxins that you are ingesting because it certainly has a direct effect on your body. We can also look at ultra processed foods,
Dr. Meg Haworth: Yeah.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: I don’t vilify any food, but certainly you can feel certain effects in your body,
Dr. Meg Haworth: Yeah.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: after eating those compared to whole foods.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: And when we eat whole foods, we might feel completely different. So I think you and I are very similar in that it’s when you eat something, gauge how you feel afterwards. Would you say that’s correct?
Dr. Meg Haworth: Yeah. I’ll have
Dr. Meg Haworth: Very detailed food journals. Woke up at 8:00 AM had my first cup of coffee, had a stomach ache by, [00:25:00] 9:00 AM and so you’re looking at the mind body connection with food. I.
Dr. Meg Haworth: Your body’s giving you that feedback, but you just didn’t really notice like, oh, you know what?
Dr. Meg Haworth: I get a stomach ache after coffee.
Dr. Meg Haworth: That may not be the case for the rest of your life, but you may wanna take it out and try different things and just experiment. ’cause your food, your body’s a laboratory. Right.
Dr. Meg Haworth: And so if you look at it that way, your laboratory is gonna be really different than mine. So, and it will change over time.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: Absolutely.
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Dr. Supatra Tovar: I just love that it’s not cookie cutter because, everybody’s body is different and we, if we were to just put out just blanket advice, that doesn’t help. But what really helps, and this is what I do in my practice as well, is, be mindful.
Dr. Meg Haworth: Yeah.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: pay attention before, during, and after you eat.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: And let your body decide for you what’s best for you, because you’ll see it in your digestion, you’ll see it, your [00:26:00] skin, hair, nails. You’ll see it in your mood. You’ll see it in, in your energy levels,
Dr. Supatra Tovar: Let your body guide you. I love this. Dr. Meg, I could to go on forever with you. We’re out of time, which is amazing.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: Please tell people how they can join your summit, how they can work with you directly. What’s the best way to reach you and give all the 4 1 1.
Dr. Meg Haworth: Yeah, absolutely. So, I go to my website at www.meghaworth.com. It’s M-E-G-H-A-W-O-R-T -H.com. And I’m sure you’ll have all the links there available. And there’s a whole tab on narcissistic abuse recovery where you can, go and look at my YouTube channel where I’ve got hundreds of videos to help people heal. There’s also the summits and online courses. So every year I do the Toxic Parent Recovery Summit, and it’s really empowering because it’s a holistic approach. So I have all different types of doctors and healers and [00:27:00] energy medicine practitioners talking about the ways that they help heal people from their traumatic experiences. So it’s a really empowering thing and you can actually, you can buy the summit now. There’s two seasons up there.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: Cool.
Dr. Meg Haworth: if you wanna listen to all of those different interviews and heal from that. And of course, the online courses, as I said as well. There’s lots of different offerings in there, so.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: Wow so you guys, there are so many ways that you can get help from Dr. Meg. So I really encourage you, go on her website, check out her summit, look at all of her eight books. She has, I’m assuming you can get them all on like Amazon and Barnes and Noble and all of that stuff, I’m sure. And on her website, I’m sure.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: So we have all sorts of ways that we can move forward and heal from something very damaging in our lives. And we’re so grateful that there are people like Dr. Meg out there who are providing help in such a [00:28:00] holistic way. We do need to, I think, look at ourselves from mind, body, and spirit and see how we can optimize our health and heal and recover from these kinds of wounds.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: So thank you so much for joining me, Dr. Meg.
Dr. Meg Haworth: You’re so welcome. Thank you so much for having me. This has been really beautiful.
Dr. Supatra Tovar: Yeah, I’ve loved our conversation so much. You’re incredible. And thank you everyone for joining the ANEW Insight podcast. We look forward to our next exciting interview, and I’ll see you next time.
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