What if sustainable weight care isn’t about choosing between medication or mindfulness but embracing both?

Medical Weight Loss

On this episode of the ANEW Insight Podcast, Dr. Supatra Tovar sits down with physician, author, and medical weight loss expert Dr. Adrienne Youdim for a powerful conversation that bridges science, self-awareness, and the emotional roots of hunger. As the author of Hungry for More: Stories and Science to Inspire Weight Loss from the Inside Out, Dr. Youdim brings a deeply personal and professional lens to the complex relationship we have with our bodies, food, and health.

Together, they explore why treating weight gain requires more than just a number on the scale and why empowering patients with education, compassion, and nuance is the only path forward.

1. From Fixing to Guiding: How Dr. Youdim Reimagined Her Role in Medicine

Dr. Youdim’s journey into medicine was instinctual, but her pivot to obesity medicine came from a deeper shift in perspective. Early in her career, she believed her role as a doctor was to “fix” people. But over time, she began to realize that healing wasn’t about perfection, it was about guiding people toward empowerment.

By reframing her approach from procedural care to compassionate partnership, she discovered a more profound way to help patients: by understanding their stories, unmet needs, and emotional relationships with food.

“Our relationship with food is a window into our relationship with ourselves.”

2. When Emotional Hunger Becomes Biological

One of the most compelling parts of this episode is Dr. Youdim’s reflection on her own experiences growing up in the culture of diet obsession. From SlimFast commercials to Weight Watchers meetings at age 11, she internalized early messages that her body wasn’t acceptable a theme many women and girls of color will recognize all too well.

She explains how emotional hunger is not a character flaw it’s hardwired into our neurobiology. When we experience distress, our hunger hormones shift. Even if we’re physically full, stress can trigger real physiological hunger, pushing us toward food, alcohol, scrolling, or workaholism.

This is where her “and” philosophy becomes powerful: she acknowledges both the science behind GLP-1 medications and the emotional roots of hunger.

“We need to recognize that difficult emotions can increase hunger, even when we’re fed. That’s not weakness it’s biology.”

3. From “Should” to Self-Compassion: Healing from the Inside Out

Dr. Youdim’s book, Hungry for More, isn’t just about food it’s a love letter to her patients and a meditation on the universal longings that drive our behavior. Through their stories, she reveals that shame and self-blame aren’t just barriers to weight loss they’re symptoms of deeper unmet needs.

Whether it’s unfulfilling work, toxic relationships, or perfectionist expectations, she encourages readers to see emotional hunger as a signpost. Only through awareness and compassion can we stop reaching for temporary fixes and begin nourishing what we’re truly hungry for: connection, purpose, and self-worth.

“Often the way to self-compassion is through acknowledging our shared humanity.”

4. What the Medical System Gets Wrong (and How We Can Fix It)

Dr. Tovar and Dr. Youdim both raise concerns about how the medical field handles obesity. Too often, care is fragmented: doctors prescribe medication without behavioral follow-up, therapists overlook physical health, and nutritionists aren’t consulted at all.

Worse, patients are sometimes left to crowdsource their care in online forums or chase prescriptions from unqualified providers.

Dr. Youdim calls for a more integrated, multidisciplinary approach one where doctors, dietitians, therapists, and coaches work together. She also challenges professionals to know their scope and refer out when needed.

But she doesn’t let patients off the hook. As she puts it, “We also have a responsibility to seek out accurate information, ask hard questions, and recognize that weight loss medication isn’t a shortcut it’s a tool.”

5. Rethinking GLP-1 Medications: Who Are They Really For?

As semaglutide and other GLP-1 drugs grow in popularity, Dr. Youdim offers a sobering reminder: these medications aren’t right for everyone. She emphasizes that while they can be life-changing for people with chronic obesity and comorbidities, they must be prescribed thoughtfully, ethically, and with appropriate follow-up.

She discusses the problem of overprescription, misuse by people without medical need, and the danger of turning weight loss into an endless goalpost—especially when patients lose more than they medically should.

Dr. Youdim’s criteria for prescribing GLP-1s go beyond BMI. She considers ethnicity-specific risk factors, personal history, and the patient’s long-term struggles with weight. And importantly, she raises the question most providers avoid: when is it time to stop?

“Weight loss does not equal nutrition. We must not forget that true health includes how we nourish our bodies, not just how we shrink them.”

Why This Conversation Matters

In a culture where diet noise is louder than ever and medications are being handed out without context, this episode offers a refreshing, grounded, and deeply human approach to weight care.

It’s not just about fixing bodies. It’s about honoring the person inside.

Whether you’re navigating your own emotional hunger, exploring GLP-1s, or feeling frustrated by diet culture’s grip, Dr. Youdim’s “and” philosophy provides a path forward one that includes science and soul, medicine and mindfulness, personal agency and professional support.

 

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Dr. Supatra Tovar: Hello and welcome to the ANEW Insight podcast. I am Dr. Supatra Tovar, and I’m so excited to have author, physician, and weight loss specialist Dr. Adrienne Youdim with us today. Dr. Adrienne. Welcome.

Dr. Adrienne Youdim: Hi. Nice to be with you.

Dr. Supatra Tovar: Nice to have you here. I’m gonna read a little bit about Dr. Adrienne, and then we’re gonna get into our questions, and I wanted to have this as a kind of a special episode that, just

Dr. Supatra Tovar: really goes into and uncovers medical weight loss. This is something that I’ve really wanted to delve into. So I’m really excited to have such an amazing expert here to help us navigate through this. Dr. Adrienne INE is an esteemed physician, author, and thought leader specializing in medical weight loss, nutrition, and metabolic health.

Dr. Supatra Tovar: With a deep commitment to empowering individuals, she blends cutting edge science with a compassionate approach [00:01:00] to health. She is also the author of Hungry for More: Stories and Science to Inspire Weight Loss from the inside Out. A book that delves into the emotional and psychological dimensions of weight loss beyond her clinical work.

Dr. Supatra Tovar: Dr. Youdim is a dedicated advocate for education and innovation in health and wellness, inspiring others to address the root causes of health challenges and achieve meaningful lasting change. Dr. Adrienne, thank you so much for joining me.

Dr. Adrienne Youdim: It’s a pleasure. Glad to be here.

Dr. Supatra Tovar: So I really love to kind of explore people’s inspiration to do what they do.

Dr. Supatra Tovar: What inspired you to go into medicine, and then what led you toward medical weight loss and metabolic health?

Dr. Adrienne Youdim: I don’t remember deciding that I wanna go into medicine. I just remember knowing that I wanted to go into medicine. It felt like one of those decisions that I was born [00:02:00] with and, always felt very aligned in my work. But certainly had a pivot of, during my training where I went from feeling like medicine was an opportunity to fix people and wanting to do something as a proceduralist or a surgeon, even I considered ICU medicine.

Dr. Adrienne Youdim: ’cause it felt like it was the most impactful to, recognizing, and this is probably a realization that deepened as I started to practice medicine. That really people aren’t there to fix, but to guide and to empower, and I think my work with obesity, medicine, weight loss is really profound in that way because yes, we’re dealing with a concrete issue, which is excess weight, which has comorbidity and chronic disease that’s associated with it. But there is this whole emotional, spiritual, psychological dimension [00:03:00] as I always say, our relationship with food is a window into our relationship with ourselves. And so if we can really lean into that hunger, so to speak, then people can acknowledge. You know where they are lacking.

Dr. Adrienne Youdim: They can acknowledge their unmet needs and then actually act upon that and, and find a way to live a more fulfilling meaningful life.

Dr. Supatra Tovar: I love that. And I, I love that you said that we’re not here to fix, but maybe to empower and to guide. I’m wondering if this is also a personal journey for you. Did you experience, difficulties with emotional versus physical hunger? And if so, how did you navigate through that?

Dr. Adrienne Youdim: Yes, absolutely. I mean, I will first say and as I’ve written in the book, that emotional hunger is really hardwired in our neurobiology. And to say that we don’t experience it, that it’s not something that everyone [00:04:00] experiences on some level is kind of, our own shame and bias speaking as opposed to to truth and reality. But as far as I’m concerned and we’re speaking on the, on the eve of the announcement that Weight Watchers has gone bankrupt. I was, I think I went to my first Weight Watchers meeting when I was 11 or 12 years old. In my mind at the time, I extremely obese when now in retrospect, I know that I was just slightly overweight and so I definitely grew up in a time of Slim Fast commercials and 17 Magazine. And also being a child, a first generation American born to immigrants, I think it just fell into an, it being my I don’t know that it was really body dysmorphism, but my issues, my negative concept of my body, I think [00:05:00] fell within this larger paradigm of just trying to fit in as a Middle Eastern child growing up in a very white Texas at the time. Being an American, having parents who are very progressive and yet very much, kind of ingrained in Persian Jewish culture. And so all of these ways in which I was different and unique which now, I pride myself on were challenges that I think just made everything exacerbated all the differences, right?

Dr. Adrienne Youdim: My different size or shape or look or, know, eyebrows or what have you.

Dr. Supatra Tovar: Mm-hmm. Absolutely. And I think a lot of people of color tend to really struggle in Diet Culture because it is just so white or Caucasian centric just to have this sort of body ideal is really [00:06:00] based not in most people’s cultures. And so they’re always trying to sort of fit in to an ideal that isn’t even appropriate or right for them.

Dr. Supatra Tovar: And when you experience this as a young child, I think it creates deep lasting impressions. How did you navigate yourself through that and away from dieting, away from Weight Watchers, and toward a healthier version of yourself.

Dr. Adrienne Youdim: There’s a couple ways that I can answer that question, but what comes to mind first is to, to observe that I’m really an and person. So, as a medical, as medical director of the Weight Loss Center at Cedar-Sinai, I practice medical weight loss. And I worked with the bariatric patients and helped my surgical colleagues get our patients ready for surgery. As a physician, right now, I’m a firm believer of prescribing GLP one drugs, and [00:07:00] I meditate and do mind body practices with my patients And I bring this up because I think it’s very important for us to acknowledge the societal pressures and the childhood imprint and all of those things that are very important. And there’s a time for us to take responsibility to navigate our own health and wellbeing, whether that means finding the right tools, finding the right guides, finding the right professional help, whatever the case may be. I think having an and approach is really important. And I think I had an, I think I had an and epiphany. What I’ll also say is that, as I grew up, and I think I navigated all of these other other ways in which I strove for perfection, in terms of education, professional life. The white picket house sort of thing. All the ways in which we strive to do, achieve our goals [00:08:00] and our dreams, but do it perfectly. Reckoning with this idea of what my, I ideal body should be, or, or is. And also just really being realistic about what I was seeing and not comparing to what was not ideal or not real. In short, I would say it’s just awareness, you know, awareness about what matters and the places in which we, we should all over ourselves. And when we take a step back we, we think differently.

Dr. Adrienne Youdim: And, and age helps too. Right?

Dr. Supatra Tovar: Oh, absolutely.

Dr. Adrienne Youdim: Right.

Dr. Supatra Tovar: I, I do think we, we become much less hard on ourselves, hopefully the older that we get. And I do completely agree with you that I think the path to health and wellness starts with self-awareness. I think really, truly nonjudgmentally and with an open heart [00:09:00] examining what’s happening inside rather than dissociating, rather than, running away from it or doing something mindless.

Dr. Supatra Tovar: Becoming more mindful I think is part of the key to really unlocking what your body is asking for and what it needs. And I think that you delve into that, in a lot of ways in Hungry for More, you blend science with really deeply human storytelling. Tell me your inspiration for writing it and how did your patients experiences help shape the themes in the book?

Dr. Adrienne Youdim: Well, I, I, I always say that when you work with people you become the benefactor of, of many lives and many stories and unless you’re asleep at the job, you start to find patterns. You start, start to find universal threads that as a human I could personally relate to as well. And I kept seeing my patients come [00:10:00] into the office. describing their experiences with shame and blame, and I’m not even talking about the weight. I’m talking about experiences in their lives, like, broken relationships or failed promotions or missteps in their personal or professional lives. The many happenings that happen in one’s life. And there was always this sense of, of shame around it, not the open-minded, lack of judgment that you speak of Supatra. And I almost felt like it was unfair because sitting behind the desk I could say, this story of Sally is the same as John is the same as Karen and is the same as mine, by the way. But they didn’t have the benefit of seeing that universal thread that connects us all. So this book was really a love letter to my patients. A way of saying that, we are all the [00:11:00] same that the stories and the struggle, the flavor of which may be different are all universal. And it was really a way that I was trying to get people to, to acknowledge their own to cultivate that self-compassion.

Dr. Adrienne Youdim: Right? Often a way, the way to self-compassion is acknowledging our common humanity. that was really the attention behind the book.

Dr. Supatra Tovar: Oh, I love that. I love what you just said. I think our common thread is our self-compassion, and I agree with that wholeheartedly. So in the book, you explore the idea that we’re often hungry for things beyond food. Purpose and connection .And meaning and things like that. How do you help your patients begin to recognize and respond to these deeper forms of hunger?

Dr. Adrienne Youdim: Well, oftentimes in the conversation I do a very extensive intake in terms of their history their, not just medical history, but [00:12:00] personal history, whether there was any trauma, not that I’m necessarily trained to deal with that, but at least if I can uncover it, then I can send them to the right people. And so in the course of the conversation, it comes up. My, I’ve been working in this deadbeat job for 30 years, and I feel unvalidated or I’m not living my purpose. Or I’m in this relationship in which there are no boundaries and I’m not valued in my relationship. I’m not heard in my relationship or I, I’m playing small because I don’t, I. I don’t give myself credit or have enough confidence, whatever the case may be. The story came out from the patient themselves and they recognize that when they are under duress or distress, that they’re more likely to soothe. And in fact, that’s also validated in the science, the difficult emotions raise hunger hormones, those very hormones that we are [00:13:00] manipulating with Wegovy Ozempic, the GLP-1 drugs, those very hormones can shift in the direction of promoting more hunger. we are experiencing difficult emotions, and so what that means is that even if you’re sated, even if you’re physically fed with food, if you’re experiencing a difficult emotion that you can experience that hunger, that is psychological, that is emotional, you can experience that hunger physically, and that drives people to consume, look, either food or drinking or smoking or getting on your phone and doom scrolling or gambling or overworking. Some of these coping skills are more socially accepted than others, but at the root, they are all the same. And the other thing I will say is that when we [00:14:00] get that when we get that quick sense of satisfaction, from whatever it is that we are, are seeking, that good feeling is reinforced. And so we can’t blame ourselves for going back for more because the coping mechanism is not curing the problem. It’s not truly scratching the itch, and yet it is offering temporary calm or soothe. And because of that temporary nature, we are moved to go back again and again to seek that soothing.

Dr. Supatra Tovar: Absolutely. I’m 100% with you on that. And I also think when we look and do a deeper dive into highly processed foods, they play into that drive and they actually try to manipulate that drive. And so that’s, I think where, and it hasn’t necessarily been completely proven per se, but [00:15:00] where a lot of clinicians believe food addiction actually comes from is a part of that.

Dr. Supatra Tovar: The, kind of neural circuits that, are activated when we have something pleasurable, like give a dopamine response. Food also helps us produce serotonin, so it makes us feel really good, but if we’re not really truly conscious of the drive that will take us to eat or we’re really highly stressed,

Dr. Supatra Tovar: that’s when I think the confusion happens. So your work has consistently emphasized the emotional and psychological complexity behind eating behaviors, which I love. That’s my area too. How do you think the medical community may have missed the mark or maybe even failed to address these dimensions?

Dr. Adrienne Youdim: I think we all play a role in we all play a role, right? And so, like, as a obesity medicine specialist [00:16:00] I’m not a policymaker, although I recognize that lots of social policies should and could be changed to support the health of my patients. So I think that, our job as, as clinicians and as physicians and all, all aspects of healthcare is to recognize. What we can offer, where our limitations are, even if we decide to stay in our own lane, right? So I, I tend to be the and person, and so my curiosity allows me to toggle between prescribing a drug and meditating with my patient or talking about, how their traumatic experiences may have shaped their health and their eating behavior. Somebody may not have that skillset nor want to, and that’s okay, but I think our job is to know what we know and more importantly, to know what we [00:17:00] don’t know and when we should include other

people into the mix

Dr. Adrienne Youdim: and what is kind of a personal pet peeve of mine? Supatra, and this goes on all sides. the surgeons who don’t believe in medical weight loss. It’s the internist who will never refer their patient to bariatric surgery. It’s the dietician or the social worker or therapists who badmouth doctors. That doesn’t help anybody,

Dr. Supatra Tovar: Mm-hmm.

Dr. Adrienne Youdim: We have to recognize that we all play a role, and if our interest is really in the service of the health and wellbeing of our, the people that we serve, that we need, need to be open-minded enough to know what’s available, to know what we know, and know what we don’t know, and, and to bring in the professionals who do.

Dr. Supatra Tovar: I love that. I think that any health journey is a multidisciplinary approach. I think that you, you can go to your doctor [00:18:00] obviously for the medical intervention. You may need a nutritionist to who really has a much deeper understanding of nutrition and foods effects on the bodies and how that

Dr. Supatra Tovar: can work with a medical intervention. And I don’t see that happening enough. I, I actually have been I’m on Facebook and I, I’ve been a part of some GLP one community groups. I just, watch and observe and I, I offer my insight if it’s appropriate at times, but I see so much confusion because of that. People are getting prescribed these medications and then there’s just really

Dr. Supatra Tovar: hardly any follow up, especially if they’re getting it online. And so they’re asking their peers on Facebook who might not even know. So I think really getting a full team to help people navigate through something like, especially medicalized weight loss is so important. So let’s, let’s transition.

Dr. Adrienne Youdim: one? [00:19:00] Can

Dr. Supatra Tovar: Yeah.

Dr. Adrienne Youdim: thing to,

Dr. Supatra Tovar: Sure.

Dr. Adrienne Youdim: that the personal responsibility is also an important facet to this, right?

Dr. Supatra Tovar: Mm-hmm.

Dr. Adrienne Youdim: There are, there are plenty of people who are seeking these drugs from physicians who are not trained in anything obesity medicine or nutrition and weight loss, and I. And I’m not dismissing the, the access issue here.

Dr. Adrienne Youdim: That is a big issue. But, they may not be candidates for the drug and so they’re going to a, another physician who doesn’t know the difference between candidacy and not. Or they just, they’re so thrilled that they’re losing weight. And I totally get that, they they completely, disconnect from the fact that nutrition is still nutrition, right?

Dr. Adrienne Youdim: Weight loss does not equate with nutrition. And actually as I have a podcast called Health Bite, and this week [00:20:00] I spoke with one of your colleagues, Gretchen Zimmerman, and we were talking about how to optimize nutrition on GLP ones. And so. It really takes yes, the, there are physician issues, there are systemic issues, but we also, need to do better for ourselves.

Dr. Adrienne Youdim: We need to take responsibility, seek out the knowledge where it’s available, and do the hard work of recognizing that the, the drugs are doing its job of dampening the appetite of turning down that food noise, but then the onus are on us to capitalize on that. The fact that we’re, we’re not, that patients are not bombarded with all these signals to make the choices that they’ve always been intending to make, or always knew that they should make.

Dr. Supatra Tovar: Yes, and I think that all, it really speaks to the larger systemic issue of the influence of Diet Culture and why people, especially those who have been shamed for being overweight, are so desperate to lose [00:21:00] weight that they may go to these compounding pharmacies or try to get it however they can get it.

Dr. Supatra Tovar: And it really, to me just really speaks to how toxic Diet Culture can be in terms of its influence to, make us want to change our weight and shape in order to fit in to this culture. So you touched

Dr. Adrienne Youdim: talk about I’m sorry to

Dr. Supatra Tovar: No, that’s okay.

Dr. Adrienne Youdim: is where we, this is where the conversation, the magic happens, right? But when we talk about Diet Culture, we are I, I feel like we’re, we’re leaving out a huge group of people, a huge part of our population that has been dealing with excess weight that actually qualifies for these medications that has a significant amount of comorbidity, like sleep apnea and obstructive sleep apnea diabetes or just poor quality of life, right?

Dr. Adrienne Youdim: Like I have a patient who’s in her late sixties. She works as a preschool teacher and, and she didn’t have a [00:22:00] bunch of comorbidities on the chart, but until she lost weight with the help of these drugs, she couldn’t get up and sit down with her toddlers during preschool. So I also, I don’t wanna put, we need to be careful to, to, to, again, this is and is the word of the day.

Dr. Adrienne Youdim: To point out toxic Diet Culture, but also to recognize that this is, that there are people who are experiencing health consequences of excess weight, and it’s great that we finally have an option to help those

Dr. Supatra Tovar: Yes. And absolutely. You’re actually answering the question I was just about to ask because I think it’s so important that for someone who prescribes something like semaglutide, that they’re determining maybe even just beyond BMI or beyond these comorbidities, why it might be right for a patient.

Dr. Supatra Tovar: So if you could just briefly tell us, how you determine whether or not these obesity medications are right for somebody. That would be so helpful.

Dr. Adrienne Youdim: Sure. [00:23:00] So, there are these criteria that professional societies put out. they’re very, are very BMI centric, so they say that if you have a BMI of 30 or greater and 30 is that BMI, that is diagnostic of Class one obesity or right, that you are a candidate for this drug, or if you are in the quote, overweight category.

Dr. Adrienne Youdim: And again, overweight is not just a description like the color yellow. It’s, it’s based on this BMI of 27 or greater or 25 or greater with comorbidities. Although the, the for medication purposes, it’s a cutoff of 27. These are the medical guidelines. you have the insurance guidelines.

Dr. Adrienne Youdim: There are some insurance companies in California right now that will not approve these drugs unless you have a BMI of 40 or greater

Dr. Supatra Tovar: Wow.

Dr. Adrienne Youdim: That is associated with a hundred pounds of excess weight. And [00:24:00] actually the majority of people who are on the individual plans right now, that is what is available to them,

Dr. Supatra Tovar: Wow.

Dr. Adrienne Youdim: why I think so many people are going, offline trying to find access to this drug. In terms of my personal approach, I very much follow the guidelines. But I also recognize that there are BMI cutoffs, that are ethnic specific. So BMI of 30 is a Caucasian typically a cutoff because it is at a BMI of 30 when they start to experience comorbidities for Asian populations. That cutoff is much, much, much lower.

Dr. Adrienne Youdim: In fact, they start to develop comorbidities at a BMI that would be considered normal by our medical standards. So I mean, I look at the whole picture. I look at the patient, I look at the [00:25:00] comorbidities. I look at how did they gain excess weight? How long have they been struggling with excess weight? What have they done in the past? Right. If they’ve never done anything in the past this was the same way we, we determined candidacy for bariatric surgery, right? If you’ve come to me, you gained weight over the last six months because of covid. You’ve never done any behavioral strategy. You’ve never tried medications. Obviously, surgery is not the right step. But if you’ve been struggling for excess with excess weight for 30 years and have or don’t have comorbidities, right? And you’ve done all the dieting and exercise and you’ve tried the medications and you just can’t get a handle of this, well then maybe it’s time to look at higher level interventions. So it really is this kind of holistic approach. And then in terms of like the amount of weight loss, that’s also something that has to be kept in mind because I have [00:26:00] patients who come in and, God, I can’t tell you how many times I hear this. Nothing works. I just wanna lose 10 pounds.

Dr. Adrienne Youdim: I just wanna lose 10, 20 pounds. Right? Then they lose the 20 pounds and now it’s like, I wanna lose 30 pounds. And they lose the 30 pounds. And now I want, and sometimes, look, if you are a hundred pounds of excess weight, then losing 50 pounds may be important to get your comorbidities under check, to get your joint pain under check. But I also have patients that I get into these uncomfortable conversations because they’ve lost a lot of weight. They are now at the lower level of the BMI. I don’t go based on looks, but just looking at them doesn’t, even as a, it doesn’t look healthy, it doesn’t look right. And have to struggle with them in terms of like. We need to dial back the dose [00:27:00] or we shouldn’t dial up the dose.

Dr. Supatra Tovar: Yes.

Dr. Adrienne Youdim: And so, these considerations go both ways in terms of starting the medication. And we don’t talk about stopping it, but how do we, where do we draw the line? Because some

Dr. Supatra Tovar: Yes,

Dr. Adrienne Youdim: people will continue to lose weight. NN and usually they’re not the people who really I, I don’t wanna say need to, but it’s not the guy who or gal who’s a hundred pounds overweight.

Dr. Adrienne Youdim: It’s

Dr. Supatra Tovar: yes.

Dr. Adrienne Youdim: the person who probably shouldn’t have been on it to begin with,

Dr. Supatra Tovar: Yes.

Dr. Adrienne Youdim: Or it was a really soft call and now they’re, it’s excessive.

Dr. Supatra Tovar: Yes. And we’re starting to see a lot more problematic eating disorders, disordered eating, coming from, I think the misuse of the medication. And so I wanna get into that. We’re out of time for this. I can’t even believe we’re out of time for this half that this is such a fascinating topic and, and I’m really,

Dr. Supatra Tovar: really impressed with [00:28:00] you and your diligence in discernment of who should be maybe on this medication and who might it not be right for, I think that we need a lot more doctors out there, like you who are really kind of looking holistically at the whole picture and, and, and really examining a person’s history to determine if this is the, the right

Dr. Supatra Tovar: path for them. So we’re gonna get into that in the second half. Dr. Adrienne, I’m so excited to talk to you some more about this. Everybody. Stay tuned for the next half of this amazing episode with author, physician, and weight loss specialist Dr. Adrienne Youdim. Thanks so much.