Pilates, Mindfulness & Body Connection

Pilates as Mindful Movement for Mental Health

In this episode of the ANEW Insight Podcast, Dr. Supatra Tovar continues her conversation with Sarah Meinert, founder of Ozean Pilates and Wellness, to explore how Pilates transforms not just the body, but also the mind. Sarah shares how she integrates mindfulness into every session—using guided questions to help clients notice which muscles are activating, stay present in the moment, and reconnect with their bodies in ways that go far beyond physical exercise.

Repatterning the Body: Awareness Creates Transformation

Sarah explains that many people are disconnected from their bodies, often taking basic movement for granted until an injury occurs. Through Pilates, clients learn to repattern their bodies—activating the right muscles, correcting imbalances, and improving efficiency. This heightened awareness builds strength while also reducing the risk of injuries.

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Healing After Trauma, Pregnancy, and Illness

Pilates plays a powerful role in recovery for women after C-sections, for breast cancer survivors, and for anyone dealing with trauma-related disconnection. By addressing scar tissue, posture, and subconscious protective habits, Pilates helps clients reclaim sensation, improve alignment, and rebuild confidence. Sarah emphasizes the importance of seeing the body as functional and resilient—shifting focus from appearance to strength, mobility, and healing.

Reframing Body Worth: From Objectification to Functionality

Cultural pressures often condition women to see their bodies as objects to be judged, rather than tools for living. Dr. Tovar and Sarah discuss how Pilates reframes body worth around functionality—lifting, bending, walking, and moving with ease. This shift fosters gratitude and empowerment, helping clients move away from shame and toward a healthier, more sustainable self-concept.

Starting Small: Advice for Beginners Struggling with Mental Health

For those hesitant to begin a fitness routine—especially when battling low energy or mental health challenges—Sarah suggests beginning small. Joining a group class, trying a short online session, or even adding ten-minute “exercise snacks” throughout the day can create momentum. The key is consistency, community, and accountability without pressure for perfection.

Pilates, GLP-1 Medications, and the Future of Wellness

The conversation also touches on the rise of GLP-1 weight loss medications and the risks of muscle loss. Sarah and Dr. Tovar highlight how Pilates and resistance training can protect muscle mass, making them critical tools for anyone on or coming off these drugs. Looking forward, Sarah sees Pilates evolving alongside new technologies, better preventative health measures, and deeper collaboration between fitness and medicine.

Sarah’s Vision: Retreats, Research, and Lifelong Relevance

Sarah hopes to expand Ozean Pilates and Wellness through international retreats, cross-industry collaborations, and more education around gut health, skin health, and overall well-being. She also calls for more research into the mental and physical benefits of Pilates, noting that while yoga and strength training are heavily studied, Pilates deserves equal recognition.

Key Takeaways

  • Mindfulness in Pilates fosters awareness and presence.
  • Body connection reduces injury risk and builds resilience.
  • Healing applications support women post-pregnancy, cancer recovery, and trauma.
  • Functional empowerment shifts focus from appearance to capability.
  • Sustainable routines can start small and grow over time.
  • Pilates protects muscle during the GLP-1 medication era.

Pilates is more than a trend—it’s a timeless, adaptable practice that nurtures strength, recovery, and self-connection. Whether you’re healing from illness, reclaiming your body after pregnancy, or simply seeking to move with more ease, Pilates offers tools to transform both body and mind.

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Here is the Full transcript: 

 

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Welcome to the ANEW Insight podcast

 

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empowering and inspiring your journey

to optimal health.

 

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Hosted by Doctor

Supatra Tovar, clinical psychologist,

 

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registered dietitian, fitness expert

and author of Deprogram Diet Culture:

 

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Rethink Your Relationship with Food,

Heal Your Mind, and Live a Diet Free Life.

 

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I follow my guests’ journey

to optimal health,

 

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providing you with the keys

to unlock your own wellness path.

 

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Tune in and evolve with us.

 

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Welcome back to the ANEW Insight podcast.

 

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We’re back for the second half

of our interview with founder of Ozean

 

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Pilates and Wellness, Sarah Meinert.

 

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Sarah gave us some really amazing insight

into her inspiration

 

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to create resilience through movement.

 

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I’m so excited to pick her brain

somemore.

 

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Welcome back. Thank you.

 

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Yes. So your company

 

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integrates

a holistic approach to wellness.

 

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So how do you incorporate

something like mindfulness

 

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or other mental health practices

into your Pilates sessions.

 

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I incorporate mindfulness into my sessions 

with my clients

 

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by asking questions to keep them 

active and engaged in the session.

 

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And those questions

are like in regards to 

 

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the movement, right.

 

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So even if we’re going through 

a chest lift,

 

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so what do you feel during this exercise?

 

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You know, are you feeling your abs,

 

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You know, what muscle groups do

you think are helping you

 

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do this exercise?

 

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And some of them, you know,

say the right muscle groups, and some might not,

 

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you know, or it’s even like footwork,

you know, just standard footwork.

 

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And it’s like, okay, so as you’re

going through this, what do you feel?

 

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Oh, my quads.

 

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Really, you feel your quads. Do you feel like your

 hamstrings or your glutes?

 

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No. Oh well,

 

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lets adjust the weight,

lets adjust your pelvis.

 

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You know, are you thinking

I don’t want you to feel your quads, you know,

 

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so just giving them questions

 

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to kind of concentrate

 

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and kind of do a little scan of their body

to see whats kind of activated.

 

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I think keeps them present,

 

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without worrying about what’s going on

in the outside world.

 

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And they focus on those things, 

because you feel

 

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I feel when you think of those things

then that’s when

 

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your body starts to transform itself

mentally and physically, right.

 

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So then we can see, oh yeah,

I am getting more definition in my arms.

 

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Right because,

 

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I’m thinking that, oh biceps, I’m not

thinking I’m moving with my pec muscle.

 

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you know?

 

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So then you begin to see that transformation,

 

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and then they become aware

and then like, oh,

 

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yeah, like I do feel like my hamstrings

when I’m pushing, I do feel my glutes.

 

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when I’m doing this. Okay good so we’ve learned

 

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I always like to say

like you’re repatterining the body.

 

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Right, to work more efficiently

and effectively.

 

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Why do you think so many people,

 

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and I really do think that most people,

 

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who are not engaging in regular exercise,

 

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maybe coming into Pilates

or any other exercise form

 

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are kind of fundamentally disconnected

from their bodies.

 

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They are not aware of their body in space.

 

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And this is maybe more of a philosophical

question or cultural question.

 

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Why do you think that is?

 

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I think people take for

 

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granted what their bodies

just do, you know, and again,

 

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You get up and you walk,

oh, that’s what my body does.

 

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It’s like, well, what

muscles are really helping you do that?

 

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You know, and it’s just like you know

if when someone

 

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pulls their back , or their low back goes out,

and it gets hurt, and their like

 

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I don’t know how that happened.

 

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Just all of the sudden,

I was just picking up a bag of groceries

 

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my back went out, and it’s like, well obviously

there was something going on beforehand.

 

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Obviously you weren’t doing something correct.

 

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You were obviously maybe lifting with your back

and not your glutes.

 

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Maybe you’re just hunching over,

 

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or you weren’t bending properly.

 

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And it’s like, I don’t know if it’s even

just in school, right.

 

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Doing health classes or whatever. P.E.

 

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they don’t teach us like these things.

 

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So there could be just

that lack of knowledge and awareness.

 

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And then,

you know, people always say too,

 

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I didn’t know I had those muscles.

 

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Well you have them, you just

haven’t used them properly.

 

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Pilates will make you find those muscles.

 

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I also think that we are

 

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we grow up in a culture of shame

around bodies.

 

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Like if you look at 

you know, America in particular,

 

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you know, it’s founded, you know

 

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from more of a religious stance

 

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and that the body was something bad

not to be talked about.

 

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Taboo, terrible.

 

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And then you have all of the other

influences on top of that.

 

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Not only is the body bad,

but you need it to look perfect, right?

 

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And you have so much pressure

to make it look perfect.

 

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And if it’s not perfect,

it’s not good enough.

 

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And so I think a lot of people,

when they think about their bodies,

 

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especially if they don’t feel like

they’re measuring up

 

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to the standards of today, they close off,

 

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disconnect, just,

you know, are not in their bodies.

 

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They’re they’re

they’re dissociated from their bodies.

 

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Would you say that

that’s in general what you see with women?

 

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Do you also see that with men?

 

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It’s a

 

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combination, I would say more so women,

 

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and especially even the disconnect

 

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after pregnancy,

depending on if you have a C-section,

 

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or a natural birth,

 

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I feel like a lot of women who

have a C-section

 

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they come back and they’re numb,

 

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they don’t have any sensations

 

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so they can’t feel their abdominals engaging,

 

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and yet they have that scar tissue

 

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built up and and that’s limiting them from

engaging

 

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or having the sensation of stuff working.

 

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Because the medical provider hasn’t said

 

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well maybe, when you have after surgery,

and you’ve healed start massaging that scar,

 

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Just like any scar, when you have knee

 

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surgery you’re going to start manipulating it

 

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to break down the scar tissue.

 

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They don’t tell women

 

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break down the

scar tissue of your C-section incision.

 

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So that you can, it can be more pliable

so you can start to move more.

 

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And I also think too, with my one client with

 

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breast cancer.

 

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You know,

 

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I, the other day I was like, you know,

I think like said on subconscious level

 

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you’re trying to like still hide

that part of your body.

 

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A lot of her posture and movement

was always kind of just like tilted.

 

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And it was like, well, that’s a sign

that you had the breast cancer.

 

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It’s like, you know,

when you go on your walks, can you walk

 

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maybe thinking, I’m okay, I’m healed.

 

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I feel better about myself

and see how your body feels.

 

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So you have different muscle groups activate

 

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and and come back

and tell me like what you felt

 

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and she was like, yeah, it’s just like

I could feel different muscle groups.

 

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I could see, you know, I noticed that my

 

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presence and how I was walking

was a little different.

 

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And it was like,

okay, like, you know, they’re subconsciously

 

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I think you just try to, like,

hide with whatever pain.

 

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I think is so

 

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good that you are encouraging people

 

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to conceptualize their bodies

through their muscles

 

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and the functions that they provide,

the functions that they perform.

 

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And that’s a very different way of people

 

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really kind of thinking about

or looking at their bodies.

 

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I think a lot of women are conditioned

to think that they have to make

 

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their bodies attractive for the male

or even female gaze,

 

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and that that’s

the purpose of their bodies

 

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is to be attractive as opposed to

 

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I can bend over and pick this thing up.

 

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I can pull this thing, out of the,

you know, overhead

 

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compartment, on the airplane with ease.

 

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And I think when we conceptualize

our bodies as functional

 

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and able to perform and do things,

 

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it’s a whole different

like paradigm for people.

 

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And I think that that’s really empowering.

 

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Is that something that you, you know,

are emphasizing?

 

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Yes. Yeah.

 

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I want clients to feel that through

these movements

 

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that they do

 

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in Pilates is that you can take them and

 

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use them functionally.

 

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Your wanting your daily activities,

 

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your daily function of life to be easy.

 

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You don’t want to struggle to walk,

or get cereal out of the cabinet.

 

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You want it to be easy.

 

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And I think when you do Pilates it’s

giving you that foundation

 

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and it might not seem like,

oh this is exercise 

 

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for grabbing something,

 

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but it is at the end of the day

it will help you.

 

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Yeah.

 

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And I think really trying to transfer

 

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our body’s worth outside of,

 

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you know, the gaze that comes toward us

and more toward

 

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what can we do with our bodies

and how powerful are our bodies,

 

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can help

recondition us out of that mentality,

 

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keep us from being dissociated

from our bodies.

 

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And really giving us a sense of gratitude

for what our bodies can do.

 

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And that’s what I’m really hoping,

you know, through this podcast.

 

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And, you know, connections

with people like Sarah that,

 

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you know, we can really help to transform

 

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how people think about their bodies

and their bodies worth.

 

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So what advice do you have for someone

who’s hesitant to start a fitness routine,

 

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especially if they’re struggling

with their mental health?

 

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Suggestion I would give to someone who

maybe is struggling

 

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with mental health, or just wanting to 

 

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find something new.

 

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I would ask like your inner

circle of family and friends, see if any of them do

 

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any fitness routine that they do

and say like, okay, like, can I join you?

 

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You know.

 

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I’m kind of figuring out

what I want to do,

 

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you know, can I try that class with you?

 

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And if nobody has anything, then

I would suggest maybe like looking into,

 

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a group right where you can do 

like maybe a group

 

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walking class, a hiking group.

 

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Or even a Pilates class,

which is amazing.

 

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So that you have something that is

 

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structured, right,

that same time, same day.

 

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There are also other people there.

 

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So then you can be social.

 

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And then you have

that accountability that is there.

 

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And so it’s just that one step.

 

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Okay, I did the one class.

 

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Now I do this I do this.

 

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And then eventually you can build and add

 

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more and explore. Exactly.

 

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So starting small.

 

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I really encourage people to not just,

 

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you know,

go New Year’s resolution on themselves.

 

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Like, even if you can’t make it

 

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to a group class or a hiking group

or things like that.

 

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YouTube is amazing because there’s

so many, like shorter forms of exercise.

 

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There’s plenty of people doing

Pilates on YouTube,

 

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or, Pilates any time.

 

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There’s all sorts of different

apps as well.

 

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So you can start small, do whatever

is like the tiniest amount that, you know,

 

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you can do regularly and attach it

to a behavior that you’re already doing.

 

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So that becomes your,

you know, attached habit to that.

 

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And that’s how you can start something

 

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slow, and especially if you are struggling

with your mental health,

 

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you may not have a lot of bandwidth,

you may not have a lot of time.

 

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You may not have a lot of energy,

even ten minutes.

 

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You know, just doing

little exercise snacks throughout the day

 

00:12:05:06 – 00:12:09:05

can also be really, really helpful, for,

you know,

 

00:12:09:05 – 00:12:12:05

when you’re really kind of struggling

and you don’t have a lot of energy.

 

00:12:13:08 – 00:12:16:08

So wellness community is huge.

 

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There’s so much noise.

 

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We’ve seen such a rise

in different types of fitness trends.

 

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How do you see Pilates

standing out as a core element

 

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of a balanced wellness routine?

 

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I see Pilates standing out,

 

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with the balance,

 

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wellness routine.

 

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Due to, I feel

 

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the classic repertoire that is there.

 

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Because we have

 

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that foundation that we can pull from,

 

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and, from those exercises, of like over 600

exercises that Joseph created,

 

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contemporary we have done so many 

variations on that.

 

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And so we do have those two 

then bags you can pull from,

 

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And then using those exercises

 

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to adapt to individuals

needs, I feel is what keeps

 

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Pilates so consistent and relevant,

 

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in a wellness routine, plus, I mean

 

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It benefits everything, it helps

 

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all other activities you do,

 enhances them even more.

 

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Absolutely.

 

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And I think you know Pilates

is seeing a, like a boom right now.

 

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It’s really become,

you know, just this wildly popular thing.

 

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But it’s been around

for a really long time.

 

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And I don’t think

a lot of people know that.

 

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And it had its own little mini boom,

I think in the

 

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early 2000, like the late 90s,

 early 2000’s

 

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Right. Popular. Yeah.

 

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It like went down for some reason.

 

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And we have no idea why.

 

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Other trends came in. Yeah.

 

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But I don’t know if it’s just like that.

 

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The rise of like the reformer classes.

 

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In different like takes on it.

 

00:14:05:09 – 00:14:08:14

And Tracy Mallett who was on our podcast,

 

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the first guest on our podcast

will say, you know,

 

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there’s so much Pilates

that is not Pilates out there.

 

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And it’s true, I think it’s

really important to do your homework

 

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and find out if it’s actual true Pilates

or if it’s an offshoot.

 

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There’s plenty of different offshoots.

 

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And that’s not to say that they’re bad,

they’re just not necessarily Pilates.

 

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But Pilates has been around a long time,

 

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and I think it’ll be here forever

because it’s incredible.

 

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So for you yourself,

 

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how do you maintain a sustainable approach

to wellness,

 

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both personally

and for your clients in a society

 

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that really focuses on quick fixes

or extreme methods?

 

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Methods?

 

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For myself, I do a lot of research.

 

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I am always researching

 

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trends or different modalities that

can help in your daily life.

 

00:15:09:23 – 00:15:12:01

Then I make my little list and I see

 

00:15:12:01 – 00:15:13:14

what’s happening

 

00:15:13:14 – 00:15:15:10

so that when clients come to me

 

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or ask me questions like I have done

my homework.

 

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and I can

 

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say, well, you know, like this is okay,

you know, this is kind of it’s for,

 

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but, you know, like you can try it.

I never discourage anyone from trying something 

they want to try.

 

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It is their own choice.

 

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I think that’s what I do

when I have to weigh the cost and say

 

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like, okay, well is it

 

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really something that will benefit me?

 

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What is this similar to?

 

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And then just take it from there. Yes.

 

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So speaking of quick

fixes, we’re definitely

 

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in the, weight loss medication

 

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craze, the, you know, revolution.

 

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And what we’re seeing

with a lot of people going on

 

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these medications is rapid

weight loss with rapid muscle loss.

 

00:16:02:17 – 00:16:06:08

So how do you help

someone who may be interested

 

00:16:06:08 – 00:16:09:23

in taking these medications,

support themselves

 

00:16:10:04 – 00:16:15:01

and keep from, you know, having some of

these detrimental outcomes?

 

00:16:16:01 – 00:16:18:14

That’s a good question [laughter]

 

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I think to be supportive and kind of understand

what their

 

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why their doctor maybe suggested them to go on.

 

00:16:27:13 – 00:16:30:03

How long do they need to be on them

 

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and see what we need to do to balance out.

 

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Them either being on them or maybe 

when they come off of them.

 

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Because sometimes a lot of these people

 are not going to be on them forever,

 

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And then they’re going to gain all this weight back, you know, they’re not going to have

 

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A lot of them are losing the weight but

 

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they’re not replacing it with muscle.

 

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So it’s kinda like, okay, 

what is your diet composed of?

 

00:16:55:03 – 00:16:58:02

Do we need to make sure

we have  the right amount of protein?

 

00:16:58:02 – 00:17:00:17

Do we need to make sure

we’re doing the amount of

 

00:17:00:17 – 00:17:05:04

resistance training, is needed for you

to maintain that muscle mass?

 

00:17:05:04 – 00:17:07:12

So when you come

off of it, you’re not just

 

00:17:07:12 – 00:17:10:04

going back and putting on fat,

 

00:17:10:04 – 00:17:14:10

but you are coming back to a sustainable 

weight that you can handle.

 

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I think it’s really, really difficult

because, you know, most doctors say

 

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that this is something that you’re going

to have to be on for life.

 

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And most people

do not stay on these medications.

 

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Even most people will go off of them

before their recommended dose,

 

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whether that’s because of side effects,

because of affordability.

 

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And so I think it’s so important

that anyone who’s considering that,

 

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especially more on the weight loss side,

as opposed to what it was originally

 

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designed for, was to help

 people with, diabetes

 

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that you consider

having kind of a multi-team approach

 

00:17:54:22 – 00:17:59:23

to taking those because, yeah, it’s

one thing to just get it from your doctor,

 

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get it from,

you know, someplace online and have zero

 

00:18:04:08 – 00:18:07:03

help in terms of,

 

00:18:07:03 – 00:18:10:19

you know, how

to try to stay on the medication,

 

00:18:11:01 – 00:18:15:23

how to handle the side effects,

how to keep muscle mass, from,

 

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you know, being depleted, 

all of these things.

 

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So a dietitian is helpful,

someone who’s helping you

 

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with your physical

fitness and your doctor,

 

00:18:27:06 – 00:18:28:00

and if you need to,

 

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also, because there’s

a lot of mental health effects,

 

00:18:31:01 – 00:18:33:12

getting some support in that area, too.

 

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So it’s kind of like there’s

a whole village that can help

 

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make that successful for you.

 

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But I also think, you know,

and I’ve been doing a lot of, just short

 

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form videos about how we make GLP

one ourselves naturally in our bodies

 

00:18:48:18 – 00:18:52:13

and movement in particular,

especially strength

 

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training helps

you actually produce your own GLP one.

 

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So I think finding out if you’re not going

to be on that medication for life,

 

00:19:01:13 – 00:19:04:07

how can you increase

 

00:19:04:07 – 00:19:09:13

your own production of GLP one

so you don’t need to be on medication

 

00:19:09:13 – 00:19:10:14

for life. Right.

 

00:19:10:14 – 00:19:14:17

So I love that you are,

you know, really incorporating,

 

00:19:15:11 – 00:19:19:08

you know, you might not have have worked

with people on those medications yet,

 

00:19:19:15 – 00:19:25:02

but you know that muscle loss

is the biggest problem with that.

 

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And Pilates is amazing for the rebuilding

 

00:19:29:09 – 00:19:32:09

of that muscle or maintaining your muscle.

 

00:19:32:23 – 00:19:35:23

So when you look ahead,

 

00:19:36:00 – 00:19:39:18

what are your goals for

the future of Ozean Pilates and Wellness,

 

00:19:40:01 – 00:19:44:11

and how do you see the wellness

industry itself evolving?

 

00:19:46:19 – 00:19:49:17

I see the wellness industry evolving

 

00:19:49:17 – 00:19:53:20

I think there’s more technology

being utilized

 

00:19:55:00 – 00:19:56:09

to help individuals.

 

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Like you were saying,

with the medications and stuff.

 

00:20:00:13 – 00:20:03:17

I feel that testing needs to be

 

00:20:04:13 – 00:20:09:15

more, more sophisticated

and better to help individuals and stuff

 

00:20:09:17 – 00:20:12:19

so we can look and have a better baseline

just instead of having

 

00:20:13:04 – 00:20:16:05

the cholesterol panel and you’re like,

oh, well, your cholesterol is high.

 

00:20:17:02 – 00:20:19:09

And it’s like, okay, what

am I supposed to do with that?

 

00:20:19:09 – 00:20:23:00

But getting them real more detailed

bloodwork.

 

00:20:24:06 – 00:20:27:13

Scans to help the individual understand

 

00:20:27:13 – 00:20:30:15

what’s going on,

and what kind of things they can do 

 

00:20:31:06 – 00:20:34:09

to help more preventative 

health wise,

 

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I think that’s what really

lacks, especially in the U.S.

 

00:20:38:02 – 00:20:39:18

is preventative

 

00:20:39:18 – 00:20:43:04

health measures,

especially with physical fitness.

 

00:20:43:04 – 00:20:45:03

So if you have like more of a baseline

 

00:20:45:03 – 00:20:49:09

or like you need to work that bone density

because of x, y, z.

 

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They have these things and

 

00:20:50:18 – 00:20:53:10

these tools that they can

then pull from and understand.

 

00:20:53:10 – 00:20:54:19

So I feel in that

 

00:20:54:19 – 00:20:58:13

aspect evolving in the wellness, 

with technology

 

00:20:58:20 – 00:21:01:22

and hopefully then also even in

 

00:21:01:23 – 00:21:04:02

the medical profession, there can be

 

00:21:04:23 – 00:21:08:01

more knowledge

back and forth within the fitness

 

00:21:08:01 – 00:21:11:04

industry, and the medical providers

 with doctors.

 

00:21:11:06 – 00:21:14:01

I think a lot of times doctors

are reluctant to say like,

 

00:21:14:01 – 00:21:15:06

yeah, go do Pilates,

 

00:21:15:15 – 00:21:16:10

it’s great.

 

00:21:16:10 – 00:21:18:10

You know, they’re like, well, you know,

you hurt your

 

00:21:18:10 – 00:21:20:17

knee, don’t do it, you. Know?

 

00:21:20:17 – 00:21:22:01

Which is ridiculous.

 

00:21:22:01 – 00:21:25:11

I think there’s there needs to be a shift

in knowledge

 

00:21:25:11 – 00:21:28:23

change

or change in exchange in knowledge of

 

00:21:28:23 – 00:21:31:16

like, okay,

well just because it can’t do one thing,

 

00:21:31:16 – 00:21:33:15

doesn’t mean you should

tell them no.

 

00:21:33:15 – 00:21:36:02

because a lotta people listen

more so to 

 

00:21:36:02 – 00:21:37:12

your medical doctor versus

 

00:21:37:12 – 00:21:39:23

listening to your, you know,

your instructor.

 

00:21:41:13 – 00:21:45:07

So that is how I feel the 

wellness is evolving.

 

00:21:46:11 – 00:21:49:17

And since for what Ozean

has in it’s goals,

 

00:21:49:17 – 00:21:53:18

I would love to do retreats. Yes.

 

00:21:54:14 – 00:21:57:02

Maybe in another country. Yes. [laughter]

 

00:21:57:14 – 00:22:00:17

And collaborate more with people 

in the fitness industry

 

00:22:00:17 – 00:22:02:13

and maybe even outside the industry,

 

00:22:02:13 – 00:22:05:09

because I feel having that cross knowledge

 

00:22:05:09 – 00:22:08:05

is great because everyone needs 

fitness in their life.

 

00:22:09:08 – 00:22:13:17

And just, you know, I think 

my own self, getting more knowledge

 

00:22:13:17 – 00:22:15:22

what I can do to expand in 

 

00:22:15:22 – 00:22:21:09

the wellness services that I offer,

with like, the skin, and gut health and stuff

 

00:22:21:09 – 00:22:23:17

I feel those things are important.

 

00:22:23:17 – 00:22:25:02

Yes. Oh my gosh.

 

00:22:25:02 – 00:22:27:05

If you do a retreat,

you have to let me know,

 

00:22:27:05 – 00:22:30:05

especially if it’s out of the country,

because that would be amazing.

 

00:22:30:08 – 00:22:34:13

And I do think like we can integrate

Pilates

 

00:22:34:19 – 00:22:37:20

more into the corporate world as well.

 

00:22:38:07 – 00:22:43:13

And really kind of get education

out there for people. I don’t know

 

00:22:43:14 – 00:22:45:02

if there just needs to be more

 

00:22:45:02 – 00:22:49:22

research in Pilates, like there has been

done in yoga and strength training.

 

00:22:50:05 – 00:22:53:05

When you research,

there’s much, and with Pilates

 

00:22:53:05 – 00:22:55:20

it’s very limited, it’s like,

oh yeah, Pilates is great.

 

00:22:56:17 – 00:22:58:16

It’s got it’s increasing.

 

00:22:58:16 – 00:23:01:15

It’s like there’s like three like you know

 

00:23:01:15 – 00:23:02:15

websites you can go on.

 

00:23:02:15 – 00:23:06:13

when like strength training,

like hundreds, it says it’s so amazing.

 

00:23:06:13 – 00:23:08:06

And you’re like, what about Pilates?

 

00:23:08:06 – 00:23:09:11

I know, I know.

 

00:23:09:11 – 00:23:12:20

And we

just we need more research in general.

 

00:23:12:20 – 00:23:16:10

And I really hope that scientific research

doesn’t go the way of the dinosaur.

 

00:23:16:10 – 00:23:19:17

Please,

because we really need it, especially,

 

00:23:19:17 – 00:23:21:14

when it comes to women’s health.

 

00:23:21:14 – 00:23:23:18

We really want to keep that up.

 

00:23:23:18 – 00:23:27:10

And if we can get more researchers

out there to explore

 

00:23:27:10 – 00:23:31:09

the actual physical benefits

and mental health benefits of Pilates,

 

00:23:31:20 – 00:23:35:06

then it just,

you know, justifies us even more.

 

00:23:35:06 – 00:23:39:05

We already know it, but science

just needs to catch up with that.

 

00:23:39:05 – 00:23:40:07

Okay you guys.

 

00:23:40:07 – 00:23:44:05

So Sarah, how do people contact

you and work with you?

 

00:23:44:05 – 00:23:47:10

What are your handles?

What’s your website?

 

00:23:47:19 – 00:23:49:14

Lay it on everybody.

 

00:23:49:14 – 00:23:51:04

You can reach me on

 

00:23:51:04 – 00:23:55:21

my web site, which is 

Ozean Pilates Wellness dot com.

 

00:23:55:21 – 00:23:58:23

And you can reach me on, Instagram, Facebook,

 

00:23:58:23 – 00:24:02:20

YouTube, LinkedIn,

all those lovely platforms.

 

00:24:03:11 – 00:24:06:06

The handle is Ozean

Pilates Wellness

 

00:24:07:17 – 00:24:09:15

Yes, that’ll be in the show notes.

 

00:24:09:15 – 00:24:13:13

You can click on that

if you are in the Los Angeles area

 

00:24:13:13 – 00:24:16:13

and you want to work with Sarah,

I highly recommend it.

 

00:24:16:14 – 00:24:19:19

I do also online,

so you don’t have to be just in L. A..

 

00:24:19:19 – 00:24:22:21

Yes. Excellent. I have clients all over

 I love it.

 

00:24:23:07 – 00:24:25:11

Thank you so much for joining us, Sarah.

 

00:24:25:11 – 00:24:26:08

You’re amazing.

 

00:24:26:08 – 00:24:30:04

A wealth of information,

and we really just want to spread

 

00:24:30:04 – 00:24:33:04

the message of Pilates for everyone.

 

00:24:33:04 – 00:24:35:17

It is not an elitist sport.

 

00:24:35:17 – 00:24:40:02

It is for anyone you know who can be

on the equipment or be on the mat.

 

00:24:40:11 – 00:24:43:23

And there are so many incredible

health benefits.

 

00:24:44:21 – 00:24:47:21

And we just encourage you to try it out.

 

00:24:47:23 – 00:24:51:09

Thank you so much, everyone,

for joining the ANEW Insight podcast.

 

00:24:51:14 – 00:24:52:11

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00:24:52:11 – 00:24:55:18

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