Trauma therapy has traditionally relied on exposure-heavy methods, like EMDR or cognitive processing therapy (CPT). While effective for some, these approaches can be intimidating, time-consuming, or unsuitable for everyone. On the A New Insight Podcast, Dr. Supatra Tovar talks with trauma psychologist Dr. Maria Gearhogan (Dr. H) about Multi-Channel Eye Movement Integration (MEMI), a modern, sensory-first approach that’s reshaping how we understand and treat trauma.
Why Clients Are Looking for Alternatives
Traditional trauma treatments can be challenging:
- Fear of exposure: Many clients are too anxious to revisit traumatic events. Some never even attend sessions.
- Limited durability: Symptoms can resurface months or years later.
- One-size-fits-all limitations: Not every client responds equally to linear or talk-based therapies.
Dr. H recognized the need for new approaches and discovered MEMI, which focuses on rapid, safe, and flexible trauma resolution.
What Is Multi-Channel Eye Movement Integration (MEMI)?
MEMI was developed by Dr. Mike Deninger and is distinct from EMDR in key ways:
- Full visual field integration: Unlike EMDR’s linear eye movements, MEMI engages the entire visual field to process trauma.
- Multi-sensory targeting: MEMI simultaneously addresses sight, sound, bodily sensations, and emotions.
- No story retell required: Clients don’t have to narrate traumatic events in detail, reducing emotional overwhelm.
- Focus on problem states: MEMI treats both clinical trauma (PTSD) and small-t trauma—stressful life events that don’t meet diagnostic criteria but still affect daily functioning.
This approach makes trauma therapy more accessible, client-friendly, and effective for a broader audience.
How MEMI Keeps Clients Safe
Safety is a priority in MEMI, particularly for those who have experienced trauma. Techniques include:
- Anchoring: Clients use physical or mental “anchors” to stay grounded in the present.
- Therapeutic dissociation: Allows clients to separate from the traumatic memory while still processing it.
- Physical grounding: Ensures clients remain present, regulating emotions throughout the session.
- Client control: Individuals decide the pace and intensity of their session, giving them autonomy and empowerment.
This combination of techniques allows clients to process trauma without feeling re-traumatized.
MEMI in Action: Real-World Results
Dr. H has witnessed profound transformations:
- Combat trauma survivor: Symptoms reduced from high distress scores in the 60s to near zero in just one session.
- Grief and loss processing: A client resolved the long-term impact of a sibling’s suicide in two targeted sessions.
MEMI provides rapid relief, durable results, and measurable progress, even in clients with complex trauma histories.
Benefits for Therapists
MEMI isn’t just transformative for clients—it also enhances therapists’ practices:
- Training accessible online: 12-hour webinar at Multi-Channel Eye Movement Integration
- Consultation support: Ongoing mentorship ensures safe and effective implementation.
- Structured outcomes: Clients’ progress is tracked with 0–4 distress scales and satisfaction checks.
Therapists report MEMI enhances engagement and allows them to help clients faster than traditional methods.
The Future of MEMI
Dr. H predicts MEMI could become as widely recognized as EMDR because it:
- Resolves trauma faster and more safely
- Works for a wider variety of trauma and stress-related issues
- Is supported by emerging case studies and comparative research
As MEMI grows, more therapists will be trained, and more research will support its efficacy—making it a powerful, accessible alternative to exposure-heavy models.
How to Learn More or Connect with Dr. H
If you’re a therapist interested in MEMI or a client seeking alternative trauma therapy, here’s how to connect:
- Official MEMI Website
- LinkedIn Page
- Facebook Page
- Email: dr.hinyourpocket@gmail.com
Key Takeaways for Users
- MEMI allows trauma resolution without overwhelming exposure.
- It is effective for both PTSD and everyday life stressors.
- Safety, control, and multi-sensory processing make it more tolerable and faster than traditional therapies.
- MEMI is accessible through online training for therapists and growing research is supporting its effectiveness.
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Here is the Transcript:
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dr–supatra-tovar_2_10-01-2025_112618: Welcome back everyone to the ANEW Insight podcast. We’re back for the second half of this amazing interview with trauma psychologists and multichannel eye movement integration, or MEMI expert Dr. Maria Gear Haugen, or Dr. H, as she’s often called. Dr. H, gave us some inVAluable insight into her extensive background and how MEMI can be a path forward out of trauma into healing. I’m so excited to learn more. Dr. H, welcome back. Thank you. Yay. Okay. Dr. H, I really wanna know what drew you to MEMI? What, what made it, you know, the pivotal moment for you in trauma treatment with your clients?
dr–maria-gear-haugen_2_10-01-2025_142618: Well, I had been doing [00:01:00] trauma work for many years, uh, primarily at the VA. And, uh, used really the traditional, uh, approaches that we use for trauma, cognitive processing therapy, CBT, different kinds of exposure therapies. And while, uh, certainly some people had success with them over time, I was finding that, uh, it wasn’t durable.
So a lot of people would come back. Things happen in their life and symptoms arose again, uh, and that it wasn’t as effective for everyone. In addition to the fact that I know a lot of people, I’ve had examples of people coming to the parking lot of the clinic and turning around and, and not coming because it’s so frightening.
It is a frightening thought to, to be facing some of your most horrific experiences in your life. so that. That not reaching [00:02:00] people really started to, I started to think there’s gotta be other approaches. And so I started investigating and I looked into a number. I actually got training in several of them, but they still didn’t seem to me to be as effective as I was hoping to find. And I came across, uh, MEMI. And I read the book, there’s a book, uh, written in 2021. So this was a pretty new, um, therapy. And, uh, I read the book and I did the training right away and I started using it right away. And I was just astounded. Astounded how quickly, how profoundly people changed. I, I ethically always offer people every option that I’m, I’m trained in for anyone who’s I’m working with.
But I did find that I’ve, you know, plenty of people wanted to try something new it’s just really a game changer.
dr–supatra-tovar_2_10-01-2025_112618: [00:03:00] Oh, that’s amazing.
dr–maria-gear-haugen_2_10-01-2025_142618: Yeah.
dr–supatra-tovar_2_10-01-2025_112618: So 2021, you found the book, and the book is entitled what?
dr–maria-gear-haugen_2_10-01-2025_142618: It is called Multichannel Eye Movement Integration, never too far from my side.
dr–supatra-tovar_2_10-01-2025_112618: And who wrote this, and then how, how did you find the training for this?
dr–maria-gear-haugen_2_10-01-2025_142618: So it was written by a guy named Dr. Mike Deninger. He’s out in Tucson he actually, uh, it was, he has a really interesting background. Um, and as a mental health provider, he, um. He, he trained with, uh, hypno hypnosis expert. He was involved in neuro-linguistic programming or NLP back in the day, he started to integrate, um, a lot of those practices.
NLP unfortunately wasn’t very well [00:04:00] documented, and so it’s not very well known these days, but he integrated what he knew about EMDR, eye movement, EMI actually, um, techniques and integrated this over a period of time and wrote it up in a book at one of his, uh, of the urgings of a client who was very enthusiastic about it. And so I, uh. Quickly read it. Uh, I did the training. If you go to eye movement integration.com, which is where I went, there is training available on there through a webinar. It’s, it’s, uh, about a 12 hour webinar. You can do it at your leisure, and that’s what I did. Um, because at that point the only, uh, trainers were in other parts of the world. Um, this is new to the United States and I’m proud to be the first psychologist offering training in it. But that’s how I did my training. And then there’s hours of consultation that are [00:05:00] necessary that I did with Mike, to get me started.
dr–supatra-tovar_2_10-01-2025_112618: Oh, wonderful. So let me get a picture of the types of trauma or presenting problems that you feel respond best to MEMI compared to other therapies.
dr–maria-gear-haugen_2_10-01-2025_142618: You know, I don’t think there’s a difference in terms of the type of trauma. The people that I’ve traditionally worked with tend to be people with, um, chronic, complex trauma histories, so maybe a lot of childhood trauma, adulthood trauma, physical combat, sexual abuse, neglect. I really haven’t found a difference with MEMI in terms of what I can work on. The difference that I do see with MEMI is that it opens the door to work on small T trauma. You know, we’ve all had events in our life that are heartbreaking [00:06:00] and, uh, disruptive and, uh, harming to us, but may not necessarily reach the threshold of PTSD. So people may be, you know, getting treatment for depression or anxiety or just, you know, not being able to function well in relationships.
And so with MEMI, rather than focusing on a diagnosis, we focus on what we call a problem state, and that problem state can be virtually anything. And I, I really view that as opening the door to being able to help a lot more people because not everyone who has traumatic events in their life or even adversity has PTSD. I, I find it helpful to be able to do that, uh, to offer MEMI for those people.
dr–supatra-tovar_2_10-01-2025_112618: Absolutely. I’m also curious about, uh, how validated research might support this. Is there, uh, are there studies [00:07:00] that you can point us to or tell us about, um, that help to support MEMI’s effectiveness?
dr–maria-gear-haugen_2_10-01-2025_142618: Well, there’s, you know, this is new and so in the book there are some studies that have been done. They’re right in the book. Mike’s actually working on a second edition, which he’s going to add a lot more. I’m in the process actually of collecting data. Uh, from people that I’ve worked with, people that I am training work with, even people in other parts of the world because I wanna write these up as case studies and start to get the word out. And so I’m, I’m encouraging, uh, people to get trained in it so that we can do more of those in-depth comparative studies and help, uh, put this forward and, and get this help out to people.
dr–supatra-tovar_2_10-01-2025_112618: Oh, absolutely. And I think that that would be the next logical step. I’m sure that because of, you know, its growing [00:08:00] popularity and people becoming trained in this, that there are a lot of, uh, transformational stories. That you’ve heard of and that you’ve witnessed yourself. Can you share, of course, client details, uh, you know, changed for their, uh, confidentiality.
Can you share a few examples of these transformations that you’ve witnessed in clients, uh, through MEMI? Who, who have worked with you?
dr–maria-gear-haugen_2_10-01-2025_142618: You know, one of the amazing things, speaking of confidentiality, is that, uh, when I was working with people before Ipresented at the APA, I told them about it once it was accepted. I think that was back in February. And I had so many people say to me, use me. Use me. It’s okay. I’m, I totally waive everything.
I, I’m so enthusiastic about it. I want, a couple people even said, I wanna go, I wanna be there as, as your testimony.
dr–supatra-tovar_2_10-01-2025_112618: Wow.
dr–maria-gear-haugen_2_10-01-2025_142618: it, it’s amazing, uh, that they’re excited about it as well as, uh, me being excited [00:09:00] about it, but Sure. Um. I’ll, I’ll talk about a couple people because I, I, I, I think they’re in some ways good examples of folks who, who need our help to move forward in their lives.
Um, the first is someone who, uh, had experienced combat trauma. He was in his mid thirties, uh, had become very, um, ineffective in his life. He had stopped working. The relationship he, he was in had broken up. He was feeling hopeless. He had dropped out of school. He was living with his parents. Really hesitant, uh, to get trauma treatment.
But finally,
dr–supatra-tovar_2_10-01-2025_112618: as
dr–maria-gear-haugen_2_10-01-2025_142618: he said, I, I have nowhere else to go. He accepted a referral to our clinic. And so, uh, he’s one of those people who I think is common. You, you get a relationship with your provider and you don’t wanna go out to another provider to get help, [00:10:00] but because most trauma treatments require a, a lot of intensive training generalists, really, normally aren’t, uh, certified to provide that training, which is a benefit of MEMI, by the way. Um, but anyway, I worked with him. He was someone who was very perseverative in his thoughts about what he went through in Afghanistan. He was in a desperate situation in, uh, a part of Afghanistan that had not been supported.
And so he was literally living in a ditch, that he and his squad had dug for nine months without support. And so that experience as well as the fighting that was a part of that really stayed with him.
dr–supatra-tovar_2_10-01-2025_112618: Wow.
dr–maria-gear-haugen_2_10-01-2025_142618: he, he was having trouble. Freeing his mind up from that.
dr–supatra-tovar_2_10-01-2025_112618: Hmm.
dr–maria-gear-haugen_2_10-01-2025_142618: so, and then he also had, he had a second trauma. He [00:11:00] had his older brother, uh, died by suicide while he was over in Afghanistan. And that really haunted him.
dr–supatra-tovar_2_10-01-2025_112618: Awful.
dr–maria-gear-haugen_2_10-01-2025_142618: um, so we worked on the first trauma he wanted to, his primary goal initially was the combat trauma, and we worked on that. Um, you know, we always start, we do an assessment at the beginning of trauma therapy in terms of their symptom burden and at the beginning and at the end. And for him, his symptom burden was pretty high in the sixties, the highest is 80 and so high sixties is really up there. And we did one session on the combat trauma and uh, that was it. His score went down to a three,
dr–supatra-tovar_2_10-01-2025_112618: What.
dr–maria-gear-haugen_2_10-01-2025_142618: yeah,
dr–supatra-tovar_2_10-01-2025_112618: Can you describe what that session was like?
dr–maria-gear-haugen_2_10-01-2025_142618: It was intense. He didn’t describe, and it wasn’t until after, uh, that I really knew the details.
He didn’t want to, he elected not to tell [00:12:00] me any of the details before he started, so I didn’t know. Um, he was very engaged. He was very willing, he was
dr–supatra-tovar_2_10-01-2025_112618: open.
dr–maria-gear-haugen_2_10-01-2025_142618: Uh, and, uh. It changed his brain. I mean, that’s basically, this is really based on the science and what we know about the brain and how it’s changed from trauma and disrupting those patterns. Changes the amygdala so that it calms it down. And that, of course, is what’s responsible for a lot of those symptoms. But he really, it, it, it, it, it, it blew his mind, his in his ex, his expression.
dr–supatra-tovar_2_10-01-2025_112618: Wow. Blows my mind.
dr–maria-gear-haugen_2_10-01-2025_142618: yeah, and then he, and then he elected. To work on the, uh, his brother’s death. He hadn’t planned on doing that, but had been really haunting him and he decided to do it.
And so we had a second session on that and that was, that was as much as was needed.
dr–supatra-tovar_2_10-01-2025_112618: That is amazing.
dr–maria-gear-haugen_2_10-01-2025_142618: One of the things I really like [00:13:00] and is very different about MEMI is that to start out with, we always ask people if they’re willing to change. Are you willing to fully accept and change anything, you know, change these things and, and the, the way that this event has impacted your life? You know, that’s a, a, an affirmative in a buy-in that we want from them at the beginning and then at the end, one of the criteria to know if we’re completed is, are you satisfied with what we did today? I don’t know of another therapy that does that. I think it’s a little scary to ask because we’re afraid of the answer, but, uh, are you satisfied with this? And you feel like you can manage this now? And so to me, those are really important and very direct, me, ways to measure, are we done? And so we get to that point when someone, you know, their, their, their score zero to four go down [00:14:00] all sensory aspects of the event and they feel like they can manage it and they really feel like, yeah, it’s not bothering me anymore. Um, and I think those are really significant elements of MEMI that are empowering to people.
dr–supatra-tovar_2_10-01-2025_112618: Absolutely, uh, from a therapist side, I’m curious how you feel, normally we set up a relationship and have a longer term, you know, course of treatment with clients. And that to me is something that’s so incredibly rewarding is, you know, to have that relationship and to see the arc of, you know, what we’re doing together and then have the symptoms resolve and, you know, eventual termination. I, I often have clients who just kind of continue and they use it as self-care. Are, are clients coming to you just for one to two sessions and then done, do they wish to [00:15:00] continue just to have therapy and to have, you know, a, a therapeutic presence in their lives?
How does that work in your practice?
dr–maria-gear-haugen_2_10-01-2025_142618: Well, when you think about symptoms of PTSD, you know, obviously there are a set of criteria, um, that are part of that pattern of symptoms with something like trauma, the impact on people’s lives is much more pervasive in parts that really have nothing to do with the diagnosis. And so often people find that they want to make sure that they feel like they can go out again, for example, but they’re still a little apprehensive about meeting new people, maybe if they want a relationship or, and so it becomes kind of practical. How do you support all those other parts of their life that have kind of fallen apart [00:16:00] because of the impacts of this trauma in their life? It’s rebuilding all of those things around it to really have them get back to living a full life. And so I think that’s, that’s kind of a natural thing. The trauma itself is changed in the brain, but that doesn’t mean all of the parts of your life that have fallen away because of the trauma and the symptoms are automatically back. You don’t
dr–supatra-tovar_2_10-01-2025_112618: Hmm.
dr–maria-gear-haugen_2_10-01-2025_142618: become sociable just because you want to or you don’t feel afraid of it anymore. So, you know, that’s really, you know, a lot of coaching, a lot of, uh, insight building, understanding about themselves and their relationship rebuilding and an identity in some cases. And so there is that, um, you know, but to, to have someone move functionally from I’m afraid to go outta my house. In some cases, I’m afraid to go outta my closet, uh, to, [00:17:00] oh, I can go shopping, I can go attend a concert. I can talk to my friends, or go to a family, get together. That’s the huge jump that people make with MEMI, and then it’s, you know, I find a lot of support in addition to that is helpful.
dr–supatra-tovar_2_10-01-2025_112618: Oh, wonderful. So for you, your, your client might come to you originally. You do the MEMI session or sessions with them, and then they usually try to stay with you in order to improve the functioning of their lives until they feel like that those surrounding, uh, problems are more resolved as well.
dr–maria-gear-haugen_2_10-01-2025_142618: It can also be that someone comes not even knowing the impacts of trauma. They may be depressed, may be so anxious that they can’t function very well at work or in a relationship or with their kids’ school. So, you know, you [00:18:00] may start out with a depression focus or an anxiety focus, or even a confidence focus. And then at some point it’s like, oh. Do you think my parents divorce that I never really processed could be impacting me? Right? And
dr–supatra-tovar_2_10-01-2025_112618: Hmm.
dr–maria-gear-haugen_2_10-01-2025_142618: events can kind of emerge in therapy, at which case you can do MEMI really help them build some confidence and shed some of those reactions that, uh, they didn’t even know they were carrying around.
dr–supatra-tovar_2_10-01-2025_112618: Oh, I think that that’s just brilliant. So gimme a picture of your trainings with other therapists. How have they responded when you’ve trained them in MEMI and what are their experiences with their clients?
dr–maria-gear-haugen_2_10-01-2025_142618: Well, uh, I can, I, I referred to, uh, this first person I’m working with, she actually did attend the APA conference and she told me afterwards, uh, [00:19:00] since we’ve been meeting, she said, you know, I walked out of there and I thought, this could be a game changer for my practice if, if what she’s saying is true. And so, like me, she read the book and she did the training and now she’s in consultation and she keeps telling me, uh, I met with her just earlier this week, uh, telling me about some poignant realizations that people have when they’ve completed MEMI. Um, their change in perspective. You know, we don’t focus on the thoughts. But the thoughts change because there’s an organic change in the brain, and, and that’s what she was referring to. Uh, it’s very powerful. As I said, she’s someone who’s been doing EMDR for I think since the beginning. And so, uh, for her to, uh, find it be as powerful as it is, is really encouraging. Yeah.
dr–supatra-tovar_2_10-01-2025_112618: Yes, it, it maybe is, does point to, uh, [00:20:00] the more linear aspect of EMDR and how MEMI uses the entire visual field. And maybe that might be the missing piece in EMDR because EMDR can be very effective, but
dr–maria-gear-haugen_2_10-01-2025_142618: Yeah.
dr–supatra-tovar_2_10-01-2025_112618: might not be for some of some people. And maybe that’s the missing piece. That probably is what future research, you know, if you can compare and contrast
dr–maria-gear-haugen_2_10-01-2025_142618: Yes.
dr–supatra-tovar_2_10-01-2025_112618: the effectiveness of both, that would be really powerful stuff.
Because I
mean, there is some validated research with EMDR.
dr–maria-gear-haugen_2_10-01-2025_142618: Oh, absolutely.
dr–supatra-tovar_2_10-01-2025_112618: So, yeah, I would love this. And, and so what do you see as the future for MEMI? Do you think it will be as widely, uh, recognized as EMDR? Um, if so, what needs to happen for that to occur?
dr–maria-gear-haugen_2_10-01-2025_142618: Well, I really think this could be bigger than EMDR because of the things that I’ve already talked about. It just makes trauma treatment so much more accessible[00:21:00]
dr–supatra-tovar_2_10-01-2025_112618: Hmm.
dr–maria-gear-haugen_2_10-01-2025_142618: you know, in so many ways it’s quicker. We haven’t even talked about the ways in which we really ensure safety. And I think for anyone who’s been through trauma, safety is a big deal, as is control.
And so we really have parts of, the, the approach that are techniques to help them stay safe and to be in control of what’s happening during the session. Um, but I really could see that it, it, it’s even more widely used. Um. It is still new. I’m, I’m eager to, uh, and I’m hopeful that, uh, this will really appeal, especially as people who use it, who’ve used other trauma therapies like myself, find how, how profound of a difference it makes. Uh, and I think in order for that to happen, we need to get the word out. Thank you very much, Dr.
Tovar,
dr–supatra-tovar_2_10-01-2025_112618: [00:22:00] You’re welcome.
dr–maria-gear-haugen_2_10-01-2025_142618: for helping with that, uh, effort. I’m meeting with different groups in different parts of the country to tell providers. I’m trying to get on, uh, you know, different, uh, platforms to help spread the word just to get people interested in it and trained in it. And then of course, we need, uh, more research. I, I’m really planning to put out some case studies, uh, in the next few months so that that can also, add to what, what people know about this really innovative approach to trauma work.
dr–supatra-tovar_2_10-01-2025_112618: Oh, I love this. Now you did mention safety, so now I have to ask. I didn’t realize I should ask about that. I should ask about that. Gimme a picture of how you do ensure a client’s safety in in a session.
dr–maria-gear-haugen_2_10-01-2025_142618: So we know that people who have trauma, um, tend disconnected. [00:23:00] Uh, if someone’s had a trauma that involves their body, especially sexual trauma, but it could be any kind of trauma, a motor vehicle accident, a natural disaster, people tend to cut off from their body. They’re, they don’t understand, they’re not connected, they don’t really feel a lot in their body. Um, and they don’t trust it. They don’t trust other people. They don’t trust themselves. Um, and so safety is a, a true, um. Hypervigilance is a symptom of PTSD, that’s, I’m looking around, I’m checking people out. I’m looking at that backpack over there. When I sit in a restaurant, I’m sitting with the exit in my view, that’s because part of trauma makes us hypersensitive to safety concerns. And, uh, I think that’s why we have several techniques during, uh, a MEMI session to help people feel safe. So one way we do that is [00:24:00] through, um, people who are familiar with EMDR know about, this anchoring that we use, but we do it a little bit differently. And uh, so that’s one technique. I’m happy to take you through it if you like.
But let me just mention the other techniques. Uh, the other is something called therapeutic dissociation. So when someone is triggered in a, from a traumatic situation and they’re triggered, the past is brought up to the present like that, it’s like a hips in the face. They’re right back there. They, you know, they’re just taken back there without any volition involved. And, uh, often people also dissociate so they space out, you know, that something comes into their mind or something reminds ’em of something, they just kind of go somewhere else, which is a safety mechanism, involuntary and not very, um. People don’t like it. Who would like to not be present, uh, with [00:25:00] yourself, but that’s very common with trauma. And so therapeutic dissociation is a way to help someone disassociate, separate, not be associated with a trauma. And we do that. I told you before about we’re casting that event up on the wall. So that’s a spatial separation that we’re helping them understand and they have control over that. I often will tell people, if you need to push that 10 feet away, if you need to push that a mile away, you can do that in order to stay engaged with that memory while we’re doing the eye movements. And it also reminds them I’ll, I’ll often say when I anchor, so you’re, whatever the anchor word is, you’re strong. And this is us here now. That’s back then. Right? So we’re helping them in a therapeutic way and a way in which they have control over this event in their mind putting it way back [00:26:00] there.
dr–supatra-tovar_2_10-01-2025_112618: Beautiful.
dr–maria-gear-haugen_2_10-01-2025_142618: yeah.
Therapeutic dissociation. And then we have physical grounding. So if for some reason someone starts to, uh, feel emotional or, you know, just be upset during a session. We always tell them, you can take a break at any time.
dr–supatra-tovar_2_10-01-2025_112618: Mm-hmm.
dr–maria-gear-haugen_2_10-01-2025_142618: This is part of giving them control. It doesn’t interfere one bit. And so I might do a little bit of physical grounding with them just to help them come back to the present and to be able to continue, uh, with, with the session.
dr–supatra-tovar_2_10-01-2025_112618: Oh, I can only imagine. You are just an amazing therapist. I just. I think your clients are so fortunate to be able to work with you. You have such an amazing presence and the way that you’re helping people is so innovative and just fascinating. I’m definitely looking more into MEMI because I can see how that could easily be integrated into my practices.
I have a lot of [00:27:00] trauma clients, uh, clients with trauma.
dr–maria-gear-haugen_2_10-01-2025_142618: Yes.
dr–supatra-tovar_2_10-01-2025_112618: but for, uh, people who want to know more about MEMI more, uh, want to connect with you, maybe wanna work with you or explore your trainings, please give us the 4 1 1.
dr–maria-gear-haugen_2_10-01-2025_142618: Well, lemme tell you a little bit, a little story about, uh, the Dr. H assignation. Many times when I was working with people. Uh, and in my view, I really view this as, as witnessing for them, witnessing being with them in a very present way. As they’re recounting these events, when we get towards the end of their treatment, they say, God, I wish I could just put Dr.
H in my pocket. And so I have, that’s my email account, Dr. H in your pocket. And.
dr–supatra-tovar_2_10-01-2025_112618: I was wondering yes.
dr–maria-gear-haugen_2_10-01-2025_142618: Yes. I’ve had, it’s just uncanny how many people would say that just out of the blue, God, I wish I could [00:28:00] put you in my pocket. So I thought, okay, we’ll do Dr. H in your pocket. And so it’s Dr. H in your pocket@gmail.com. Uh, I also have, uh, a presence on the, uh, multi-channel eye movement integration.com website. And so there’s information about me on that, and you can, uh, click on that and it will come to me. Uh, I’m still working on a website and, uh, YouTube channel, but that’s to come as well under the same name. Dr. H in your pocket.
dr–supatra-tovar_2_10-01-2025_112618: Oh, Dr. H, you are just, I wanna put you in my pocket now.
dr–maria-gear-haugen_2_10-01-2025_142618: Yeah.
dr–supatra-tovar_2_10-01-2025_112618: I’ve done it. I will pull you out whenever I need to just smile and, and feel better about my life. Thank you so much for agreeing to be on this podcast. I think we’ve learned so much, and I do think that this is such an important and innovative treatment. And I know I’m gonna be looking into this more, and I really hope everyone else out there [00:29:00] takes a look at this training because it really is something else. If we can resolve our trauma in one session, can you imagine what else we could do with our lives? Oh my goodness. So thank you so much for joining me, Dr.
H.
dr–maria-gear-haugen_2_10-01-2025_142618: It’s been a pleasure.
dr–supatra-tovar_2_10-01-2025_112618: Yes, and thank you everyone for tuning into the ANEW Insight podcast. I of course, am looking forward to the next exciting interview, and I hope you join me next time.
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